Closing Sniper

[SOMEBODYONCETOLDME]

Alright, we have this thread going for about a month now.

The clear winner so far with 17 votes is Hide'n'Seek/Infected, followed by Etpro/Public with 9 and NQ with 7.

So, thats the question we now need to answer in order to find out where to go with good ol' Ex-Sniper.

Lets go to a voting, and make things happen=]?

+1

Voting already happened , HnS had most votes ? Why would there be a new vote? :P HnS won by 8 votes.

[Robbert]

Cause there wasn't an official vote? there was just a lil poll to search where were the interests.

[Coffee]

Sad to see sniper go indeed. It has been a very good run but I think this is the right decision to make.

On whether or not there should be a replacement, my opinion is divided.
Should there be another server with a memberbase that is competing with the already struggling servers in an old game? I think it is obvious the answer is no.
Is there an actual need for a fun server which will only be used on a sporadic basis? The answer is debatable and can very well be a yes, but then do choose something which is not found anywhere else otherwise you can simply go there if it is only for once or twice.
I'm not a fan of switching mods, people like to settle and don't like changes. If you switch things around every day, you will not build up a playerbase.

I think these are all points to consider in this debate.

Completely agree here. And as Hammy said before, it's good to know what we want to then decide if the new plan adds up with the goals.

To me, HnS sounds fun and with people that run it it could actually work out. However. A memberbase is quite too much Imo. Maybe have some people take up a double role in TWC or appoint some Admins lvl 7+ to create a team such as a fireteam? Have them maintain the server and just have fun in it. So no members just server administrators-ish

[Haures]

Yesterday I was reading about the hitboxes of nitmod (I wanted to know why they implemented it like that, as it is on the Beginners server).

What I found is that nitmod implements hitboxes for each body part. This is completely different to the standard hitboxes (as shown in the figures in the spoiler).

Spoiler

In theory this should be better and work fine, because there could be different damage rates for hitting the arms, legs, main body etc. However in practice we all know it's very hard and frustrating to hit people on the Beginners server.

So when I was reading the cvars list of nitmod and I found following commands: http://etmods.net/nitmod_cvars.php

g_hitboxes
Controls new advanced animation linked players hitboxes (Bitflag).
0 : Disable, server use "standard" hitboxes + ETPro 'real head' and N!tmod 'real body' if enabled
1 : Enable server use animation linked player hitboxes
2 : Enable More precise hit detection, seems perfect for sniper servers, but awful for public servers...
4 : Experimental first detection, give first zone detect
8 : Use advanced detection order
16 : Players can avoid bullet impacts when they are behind a player who has just been revived (Default ET behavior) New since 2.2.1
Default: 0

g_realBody
Bitflag to control various body hitbox options.
Normal body hitbox is big compared to the player, so you can get bodyshots when you�re not aiming at a player's body.
Players will be slightly harder to hit with this feature enabled.
0 : Disable (Use ETPro style Hitboxes)
1 : Reduce body hitbox width
2 : body hitbox height lowered to shoulders
4 : Dead/Prone/Playdead hitboxes height lowered
8 : Crouch hitbox lowered to shoulders (a little more than ETPro)
Default: 0

I'm a complete newb in server setups etc and I don't know the current settings of the Beginners server.
But if I understand correctly, there exists, besides the nitmod hitboxes, also the standard ETPro hitboxes.

What if Beginners changes to the standard hitboxes. You would have a good server with
custom maps,
single jump,
good hitboxes,
active and friendly community,
+ nitmod allows a lot of customization and tweaking (like the current custom sounds etc.)
In this case, there won't be a need for a ETPub or ETpro server

If i'm totally wrong and misinterpreted the cvars, you can ignore this post

Yup these have been changed. Now we use g_hitboxes 0
And g_realhead 0

[draken-jager]

Yup these have been changed. Now we use g_hitboxes 0
And g_realhead 0

Thanks a lot !! hitboxes feel great now!!

[HamsteR!]

Before Snipe will be cloded I can organize last farewell meeting/tournament there. What do you think about it?

[optee]

Before Snipe will be cloded I can organize last farewell meeting/tournament there. What do you think about it?

Too bad no one is gonna join that, like every PsA meeting on sniper.

[draken-jager]

Before Snipe will be cloded I can organize last farewell meeting/tournament there. What do you think about it?

Too bad no one is gonna join that, like every PsA meeting on sniper.

I'd like to join a last farewell meeting on sniper

[Coffee]

Before Snipe will be cloded I can organize last farewell meeting/tournament there. What do you think about it?

Too bad no one is gonna join that, like every PsA meeting on sniper.

It could be dressed up less like a PsA-meeting. I hope noone will be prejudged now by reading this, it could actually become fun and imo it has nothing to do with PsA :-)

[Ludi]

Before Snipe will be cloded I can organize last farewell meeting/tournament there. What do you think about it?

It would be nice imo