Other Can we have sILent mod? (archived by NightFall)

[Coffee]

I would personally miss the small maps in which we can luger. I love doing that my fellow HS members would agree, I think. If I may speak for them. We are, well, 9/10 times playing small/medium maps that aren't obj based. I will ask more HS members to post their opinions or tell me what they think.

Again, I would reeeaaally miss the lugering and small maps fragging. I think our HS server is too 'unique' to merge it with another server and leave the concept/gameplay that we have right now behind. Not saying this because it's my homeserver, ofcourse. A merge would only do good when it comes to activity . I would however not really like it if it were to become an obj server of any kind.

[yourdog]

for the new server: i think from the 53 active members 10 maybe even more are to inactive to forfill the time to play at the new server, and from the 43 left i think like maybe 3 wanne try it, so i think its really useless to even discus it, but plz post here if not:P

joining servers together. well i have been thinking about it aswell.
but i think you can leave sniper and nam out off it, because there is only 1 person from those 2 servers active, and that is butcher, so imo mixing sniper or nam with another server doesnt change a thing, exept for maybe losing a nam guests who plays there once a week with bots.

we have been thinking about it before to mix hs with bg (shockwaves idea actualy) to make an obj headshot server or for example to make it hs kill with the vote system or something like it, but we never got that close cause the supremes arent sure about it+its alot off work and votes etc etc etc etc.+ the time we talked about it hani had to do exames and stuff first.

but let me know what you guys think, especialy hs and bg members.

for example
like HS only on mon-wed-friday
the rest of the week obj

^^ just like master said,

And about a new server/mod..
Trust me it won't work, i know from experience try to change a mod to gain activity aint working u need members and guests.
people make people. if u have 2on2 soon there will be 4on4 but dont expect people to join to a empty server cause they won't,
Would't you connect to a empty server to frag bots?

[The Master]

I would personally miss the small maps in which we can luger. I love doing that my fellow HS members would agree, I think. If I may speak for them. We are, well, 9/10 times playing small/medium maps that aren't obj based. I will ask more HS members to post their opinions or tell me what they think.

Again, I would reeeaaally miss the lugering and small maps fragging. I think our HS server is too 'unique' to merge it with another server and leave the concept/gameplay that we have right now behind. Not saying this because it's my homeserver, ofcourse. A merge would only do good when it comes to activity . I would however not really like it if it were to become an obj server of any kind.

i understand you coffee:P but i do see you alot on nodownload aswell so if we just add those small luger maps we can play them both? or is this different anyhow?
thanks for your responds so fast

and ye yourdog true

[Mimus]

To throw in a question: What prevents current e.g. HS and BG members from just meeting up in one of their respective servers every now and then?
After all, you do not need a PSA-team to gather for a meetup.

HS can keep the small luger maps n stuff, BG can keep its own settings and maps, supremes will save themselves the work it would mean to first merge the servers and then constantly change from e.g. HS only to OBJ-style.

I personally do not see how merging the servers makes it more active, apart from the bigger memberbase you can choose from (actually, I see way more disadvantages like the work you will have and the confusion it might cause to be so mixed up concerning playstyle etc.). But if two servers form some kind of "alliance", they already are that bigger memberbase you can use for both servers (on different times ofc).

[The Master]

like you sayd yourself mimus to get a server active the best shot is to have enough active members,
we dont have enough active members to keep the server running with poeple on it but we do have some active members that mostly play nd etpro or whatever.
for hs its the same thing, so tegether you have a way bigger group off active poeple, so also a much bigger change off succes.

if you play obj gameplay we also need to kill poeple on the server, and ofc every1 prefers a headshot.
so its good for both imo atleast.
and lets be honest bg is dieing hs doenst get allot more activety aswell so we are just bleeding to death in the end, or atleast that how i see the vision off the future, there are not allot off new poeple joining et nowadays and if they do it is really really rare that they join hs or bg.
most poeple join nd and after that tj.
and that is normal ofc because poeple atrack poeple so if we dont have enough members to keep the server active we are not gaining any activety

about allot off work well its mostly forum stuff hani was thinking about makeing it nitmod already if i am right.

but its not my call in anyway anyways, i just like the idea

[yourdog]

The mod of hs suxks when u don't have hs only
the hitboxes change when change to hs only or back.
the head hitbox is not on the same place.

And I don't see much work because hs and bg are nearly dead when non of our members is playing on it
and we indeed discussed this already with hani only for now what his pov was about this idea

[$ubzero]

yup like Master said, a bigger base of active members "should" have more possiblity of keeping the server HS/BG active.

And btw an extra point for you Mimus&Ligustah it would mean 1 less server to pay for.
So you could save some money and like put more money for example in better servers, cooler meeting, cooler T-shirts, donating to TB. Idk and idc what you would do with that extra money But always fun to have some extra money, right?

and Indeed we were already going to change to N!tmod somewhere by beginning of summer (July).
But like coffee said I would be sad if HS disappeared, cuz I joined it cuz it was different from the other servers like ND.
(I was never a good player in full servers I only own in small groups, like HS )

And on your disadvantages points:

1) we were already doing the work for changing to N!tmod.
2) who would we be confusing, bot servers don't have that much regulars and members are updated/warned through site
3) Playstyle, yea it would change but again not that many people, don't know how they will take it. But change can be good

[Mimus]

We would not pay less, we do own some kind of one huge server (dedicated?) and can run as many servers on it as we wish to (ofc, there is a cap, but its not reached yet at all). So for us it does not matter at all if we have 2 servers running or 1.

What I do not quite yet understand is why you want to do that work (and after all, is definitely IS at least some work) to merge the servers. Your main argument is always that then you have a bigger memberbase. But in order for the members of HS and BG to "unite" and play more together, I do not think you need a merged server. What prevents you guys from joining BG on Mon-Tues-Wed and then HS on Th-Fr-Sa? If you merge you do not only have to merge the servers (aka the maps, mods, settings and whatnot) you will also have to merge the administrative system, meaning current bans on one server or the other, the admins and all that. Who is gonna be admin? Just everyone, or will you need some new admins which are more suited to administrate a bigger memberbase. OR are you gonna go with different admins depending on when you play HS on the server and when BG`?

I could come up with like 1000 more reasons and things that will need to be considered and will show to be quite a pain in the behind if you merge the servers, yet I still do not see the huge advantage merging should give you. On the contrary, I see not everyone of the members both in BG and HS would be all happy-pancakes with it.

So why exactly do you want to merge, if its not for the memberbase (which you can also use if HS and BG "unite" and just play together on one of the 2 servers on different days of the week)?

[$ubzero]

Ofcourse it would mean some work yes. And I didn't know about the server thingy.

But still why would we let 2 servers going dead (bit like sniper) instead of trying to make 1 active server?
And switching days betweens server I don't see that happening at all (look at PSA, that's such a succes)
Merging the 2 servers would be meaning giving it a chance on becoming active instead of now slowly dieing.
I don't know how you can't see that 1 possible active server is better then 2 dead servers.
And also indeed merging the site base and admins etc would mean work and organasation and preparation, but this would also clean up the site a bit.
For example HS and BG site bases aren't super active, again merging them would (maybe) make 1 active site base.

For the admins there is indeed a discussion needed between HA of both server. I would think 2 supremes like 1 from HS and 1 from BG stay and then for the rest it can be decided intern. I wouldn't mind stepping down to normal admin level. But like you said all admin wouldn't be that bad either, it would make 2 Leaders, 2 Coleaders, 3 Recruiters, lot of admins. I don't see why it wouldn't work that way.

But like you said this needs to be discussed with our own members, how they like this idea and all. For now this is just an idea.
I can see why members of HS or BG wouldn't like this.

And we would unite for a bigger memberbase, cuz a memberbase for 1 server works better then a memberbase for 2 servers. It's human nature to stick to 1 thing (the best known thing) so like mentioned before I don't see members switching between server every few days (maybe for a week or 3). I know I am that way at least. And making 1 server would take away that problem.

[Coffee]

I would personally miss the small maps in which we can luger. I love doing that my fellow HS members would agree, I think. If I may speak for them. We are, well, 9/10 times playing small/medium maps that aren't obj based. I will ask more HS members to post their opinions or tell me what they think.

Again, I would reeeaaally miss the lugering and small maps fragging. I think our HS server is too 'unique' to merge it with another server and leave the concept/gameplay that we have right now behind. Not saying this because it's my homeserver, ofcourse. A merge would only do good when it comes to activity . I would however not really like it if it were to become an obj server of any kind.

i understand you coffee:P but i do see you alot on nodownload aswell so if we just add those small luger maps we can play them both? or is this different anyhow?
thanks for your responds so fast

That's true, I could imagine that happen and maybe even work out. But it would not be my ideal merge. As Mim said it would be slightly confusing and alot of work. I am personally not capable of fixing all that stuff so I would not dare to make that call either. I am gonna stay with my opinion. I would however be fine with a merge if the others feel a great need to it. I am really willing to help get our activity back even if that reduces our amount of small maps and luger-duels. Can't have all