Changes for ND gameplay (archived by $4m4el)

[Davu]

Its not april fools day? NO NO NO.
Dont fuck ND up, and Snowman this isnt even your own home server, go make a poll about your own home servers improvements perhaps?
Funny fact also is that high amount of OG ND players have not even registered to our forums, and guests voice does not really get enough attention at forum polls.
We would lose many legendary guests if we try to fix something that is not broken.

[nuestra]

+1 for davu


The topic maker is not member of nd Server guys where not member of nd Server vote Not correct they cant switch for higher levels and make a false pool at our nd sever without Rambo medic vote at Start lol

[Snowman]

Davu, i play at ND as much as your mentioned "og nd players" or you so i can make poll if i want to so there is no point for you to start pointing fingers to me and accuse ruining server where i like to play.

My attention was to point out panzer is overpowered weapon in ND and a lot of people seem to agree on that. I made poll since people talk about it but no one does anything.

Its not like im deciding what has to be done for ND, i just give suggestion. Eli mietipä ensin ja kirjota vasta sitten kiitos

[Mega$low]

I really dont get why you want to make changes,many guests like it how it is, i think almost all of them.ND isnt pro server minded,even a player who is not skilled with SMG can be satisfied with using panzer,mortar,rifle, mines and make some kill and keep him satisfied.The problem here is that skilled and highly skilled SMG players cant accept the fact that they get easiley killed by others with one click (panzer for example),Landmines can be easily spotted using cvop class,Artillery ehmm when was the problem with that?, medic pack charge are you kidding me?
And if you want to play with diff cfg of the server, with less charge,less splash damage,etc the soultion is pretty easy ,TWC have a great server with this style is called BG server.And many diff maps are included.

[Davu]

You told me to think before I answer at your last sentence, pretty unnecessary comment wrote in Finnish in my opinion. Thanks for "reminder" but I very well know what I wrote.
I told how I feel about these "improvements" and gave my opinion.
People love ND as it is, which you can detect in the regulars who play at ND, as well as the fact NoDownload is and has earned It`s spot in most popular servers among many other ET servers, especially among European players who have developed their unique game play with hard work.

Fixing something that is broken does not make sence to me. Improvements are always welcome and Ideas, but this is not the way to go in my opinion.
S4m4el was thinking about nerfing meds ability to heal because of percent of medic only players are "rambo" and do not heal teammates, I understand his point but personally I think there will always be rambos.

Turtle is right, many people who cant stand losing to other weapons (like panzer) have too big ego to die. Good SMG player adjusts his game play so he most of the time kills the panzer instead of dying. And accept the fact that different people use different weapons, not everyone needs to play with same weapon.

[Kokok]

I really dont get why you want to make changes,many guests like it how it is, i think almost all of them.ND isnt pro server minded,even a player who is not skilled with SMG can be satisfied with using panzer,mortar,rifle, mines and make some kill and keep him satisfied.The problem here is that skilled and highly skilled SMG players cant accept the fact that they get easiley killed by others with one click (panzer for example),Landmines can be easily spotted using cvop class,Artillery ehmm when was the problem with that?, medic pack charge are you kidding me?
And if you want to play with diff cfg of the server, with less charge,less splash damage,etc the soultion is pretty easy ,TWC have a great server with this style is called BG server.And many diff maps are included.

Nothing more too add

[Kenny]

Actually quite a lot of guests would be happy with changes to panzer from what I've seen when I have asked.

[nuestra]

Sorry snowmen is not nd member. You cant das something here. But if you want i can recruit you. Thank you mega and all others where are with me

[Senpai]

Sorry boiz for my disclaimer but even if panzerfaust will be nerfed a little bit does it change anything? This weapon will always be overpowered/always will kill anyone immediately. Looks like consensus is part of imagination here lol.

[Snowman]

Senpai its no problem in my.opinion to "insta kill" with it, but u can do it too rapidly because low cooldown.