POLL: Should Molotov be considered a heavy spawnkilling weapon? (archived by $4m4el)

[Haures]

just gonna say my opinion and this is it: molotov is way too OP to block spawn exits yes it rarelly happens but still its shooting flames which burn you very fast to death compared to a flamer which does damage over time and its not sudden death when you get away from it quickly. the flame radious of molotov is way bigger compared to a flamer so you can easily kill multiple enemies with one molotov. so this is why i mark it as Hvy weapon.

[Storch]

I have kind of divided opinions on this matter, mostly because (as I said in the other molo thread and as Sky already mentioned in this one as well), just very few spawnpoints in the current map cycle on ND are affected by possible molotov raids. On the one hand this makes the whole issue far smaller than some of you guys make it here and implies that such a change of rules would not really be necessary. On the other hand, because so few maps / spawnpoints were affected by this, it could not do much harm to change the spawnkill rules as it is suggested in this thread.

The main issue with these molotov spawnkills is in Gold Rush at the second axis spawnpoint, and there are still two other exits from the spawnpoint, so I personally don't mind the molos. Still I think this molo spam adds to the overall messy atmosphere in Gold Rush when there are 30 or more players. Again two different points of view, so just do with this whatever you think best

As a side note, it is very true what Sky mentioned here ealier. Most of all these spawn related issues occur when the teams are unbalanced, as in Sky's screenshot. So maybe it would be more prudent to change the way the teambalance is handled. Just because the numbers of players in Axis and Allies are even, it does not necessarily mean that the teams are fine. One should look at the team score in square brackets every now and then, those are far more relevant for the teambalance than the mere number of players. That is why the rule with changing teams immediately when it's +2 or -2 in one team is pretty much pointless. Sometimes you even make the balance worse by changing blindly according to this rule. But okay, this is a different topic I guess.

[Davu]

I cant vote for some reason. (Members only?).
Anyways I will vote no.

[Kokok]

Well, as you can see only ND member who voted yes is Snowman. First of all, molotov is part of ND since 2012 or 13, can't remember. Since that time I didn't hear lot of complaints. Guests aren't ragequitting because of it, don't get mad. Yes, we should think about guests, we won't change it because members want it.

[Davu]

Soo this vote is for members only?

[Enigma]

Soo this vote is for members only?

This isn't even a vote for a new rule. It's a poll to gain insight like the one with transmitter as I see it. Yes there are more people who voted molly should be considered heavy sk,but even if it was 100-4 this vote wouldn't have gained a rule. Since the poll is this close there is no reason to complain about the thing anymore for the next few months either, the solution given here is just: dont play on ND

[$4m4el]

the solution given here is just: dont play on ND

gl with bots owning on other servers

[Enigma]

the solution given here is just: dont play on ND

gl with bots owning on other servers

A comment like that is completely unnecessary considering ND is not the only server with players on ET. What you are doing here is trying to bash the other servers without any reason and after a comment like this i'd much rather play on servers of other clans than ND, not considering the fact i wasnt playing there anymore anyway.

Horrible comment sam, especially considering I was defending your decision to not change anything in my post, and you seem to have missed my point bigtime.

EDIT: or are you talking about the aimbots? Because then ND is actually the best place to go isn't it?

[Davu]

Soo this vote is for members only?

This isn't even a vote for a new rule. It's a poll to gain insight like the one with transmitter as I see it. Yes there are more people who voted molly should be considered heavy sk,but even if it was 100-4 this vote wouldn't have gained a rule. Since the poll is this close there is no reason to complain about the thing anymore for the next few months either, the solution given here is just: dont play on ND

I have not complained about anything, was just curious.
Poll/Vote, both are tied in each other, poll could lead to vote, lets not fuck the dot.
I will always keep playing in my home and favorite server, even tho molotovs as heavy SK I am against and removing marakez was terrible, rotating maps would bring my interest back in ND.

[Snowman]

the solution given here is just: dont play on ND

gl with bots owning on other servers

A comment like that is completely unnecessary considering ND is not the only server with players on ET. What you are doing here is trying to bash the other servers without any reason and after a comment like this i'd much rather play on servers of other clans than ND, not considering the fact i wasnt playing there anymore anyway.

Horrible comment sam, especially considering I was defending your decision to not change anything in my post, and you seem to have missed my point bigtime.

EDIT: or are you talking about the aimbots? Because then ND is actually the best place to go isn't it?

In my eyes your sentence where your "solution" is to not play on ND, is considered more unnecessary comment than Sam's reply to you. Also I really feel like you are just trying to gain some drama in the forums when taken on consideration your latest posts, Enigma.
This is not an attack towards you, just a warning to make you understand where you can improve your behavior.