Other I feel like TWC members should have more commands in other TWC servers (archived by NightFall)

[Antho]

Yet it does not happen. That makes me wonder, is the problem really that big? Because to me it does not feel like it is. If I set myself into that position and imagine I am really mad because there are people breaking the rules ingame and no admin is there....I would go look for one. Instead of doing nothing and then shouting for more power on the forum.

Its not like people with less commands can not do anything against rulebreakers. They can. They just have to actually DO IT, too.

Very nice post, you're spot on.
I'd say people are just looking for the easy way out. So why not make it easier hmm

An idea I personally like is placing a kind of banner on the front page of the forum. Which, after clicked on, redirects towards a page containing contact details and a page explaining who to approach.

[Emblem]

Yea mimus i agree that not every member should get splat. and i can understand why you dont want every level 4 to have mute either. However i suggested giving everyone who's recruiter or higher in their own server splat (and mute) in the other servers they visit.

True i did not check if you were busy on steam however in this case it only would've been usefull if the person we called came the second they were asked. If the guy didn't stop after a while im sure we would've asked a high admin to do something. However like you said "Its not like people with less commands can not do anything against rulebreakers. They can. They just have to actually DO IT, too.". We were doing just that. Multiple members in the server in nd tried to talk to the guy who was spawnkilling and in the end we managed. However in the meantime multiple people got really pissed at the TWC members there And some started spawnkilling as well.

I think its important to prevent the outrage from visitors (and members) from happening. I Think nirv for example should have the commands needed to prevent this kind of rage. He visits ND very often and is someone we know wont abuse. this is of course just an example. i'm naming him because he was there at the time.

[Enigma]

Yet it does not happen. That makes me wonder, is the problem really that big? Because to me it does not feel like it is. If I set myself into that position and imagine I am really mad because there are people breaking the rules ingame and no admin is there....I would go look for one. Instead of doing nothing and then shouting for more power on the forum.

Its not like people with less commands can not do anything against rulebreakers. They can. They just have to actually DO IT, too.

Very nice post, you're spot on.
I'd say people are just looking for the easy way out. So why not make it easier hmm

An idea I personally like is placing a kind of banner on the front page of the forum. Which, after clicked on, redirects towards a page containing contact details and a page explaining who to approach.

Here you go:

http://board.twcclan.org/misc.php?page=memberlist

[Antho]

Yet it does not happen. That makes me wonder, is the problem really that big? Because to me it does not feel like it is. If I set myself into that position and imagine I am really mad because there are people breaking the rules ingame and no admin is there....I would go look for one. Instead of doing nothing and then shouting for more power on the forum.

Its not like people with less commands can not do anything against rulebreakers. They can. They just have to actually DO IT, too.

Very nice post, you're spot on.
I'd say people are just looking for the easy way out. So why not make it easier hmm

An idea I personally like is placing a kind of banner on the front page of the forum. Which, after clicked on, redirects towards a page containing contact details and a page explaining who to approach.

Here you go:

http://board.twcclan.org/misc.php?page=memberlist

Haha I was aware of that page. People don't feel pulled towards a button called ''members'' when they're pissed off. That's the point I was trying to make.

[Davu]

Give visiting CLDR+ or RCTR+ splatkickmutesmite w.e.
I dont know if CLDR+ already have that permission in other servers, probably just from visiting Supreme, correct me if I am wrong.

[HamsteR!]

I think that giving more power to members with 4 level is bad idea. I understand problem mainly concerns ND server and if you want to give more power just do it but only for 8+ levels. Why? Because, I think that all members with this levels are just trusted persons and they occupy their position not accidentally.

Yes, all servers are different. But if someone with 8+ level is playing in other server he have to know rules. For example; Nirv as ND ex-member know rules very well and he visit server often and he can help if something is going wrong. Very often I'm just mad because when I play in ND and I'm alone (as twc member) I can do anything when someone doing sk and destroys game. What can I do? Of course, I can talk with this player and what answer do i get? "Shut up, I'm unpunished, you will not hurt me"?

And I think that the worst thing you can do is do nothing.

[Thrasher]

Perhaps we should 'buff' the level 7 members but reserve it for those who have proven themselves good with handling rule breakers or even make it a high admin spot itself. Another idea I have is basically the above but can apply to all levels; to give the very good members commands via private ACL.

[Senpai]

reserve it for those who have proven themselves good with handling rule breakers

Point them out.

You simply can't solve this problem at all. You can only decrease number of cases.
If High Admins are not trustworthy enough to obtain admin level, there's none you can trust.

[Davu]

Perhaps we should 'buff' the level 7 members but reserve it for those who have proven themselves good with handling rule breakers or even make it a high admin spot itself. Another idea I have is basically the above but can apply to all levels; to give the very good members commands via private ACL.

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[Enigma]

Perhaps we should 'buff' the level 7 members but reserve it for those who have proven themselves good with handling rule breakers or even make it a high admin spot itself. Another idea I have is basically the above but can apply to all levels; to give the very good members commands via private ACL.

I disagree.

Speaking of experience with EA, as time goes on you forget about people who need to have their private ACL removed as they leave the clan/move on, etc. It is a lack of an overview on the matter and will only lead to problems later on. A private ACL for a selected few people would also cause problems with others "Omg why did they choose him and not me, this is unfair, I deserve x and y and z and blablabla".

A private ACL for a selected few people is not the way to go.

One way to go at this matter is however to start ASKING people on steam/whatsapp/facebook/whatevertwitteryouhaveofthem who do have the power to help at a certain time, and then if that doesn't work out you can always look at other methods. Based on this specific matter in the post itself it was basically a peaktime with people playing, which makes it a bit hard to believe one out of the current 15 ish active people with powers to do something in nodownload alone (recruiters and higher of ND, mst's, supremes of other servers) was not online at that moment. Perhaps start by asking people if something is happening. If you can't bring it up to get out of game for a few seconds to ask them on steam, the problem is simply not big enough to have to be solved at that moment.

The common way for people without power is to ask for more power to be distributed, even when that is not needed. In this case I wouldn't call it needed in the least.

You have a steam group for the clan, there is a memberlist in the upper right corner with all steam names as well. A lot of people have other ways to contact as well. It can't be that hard for 6 people to reach one person.