Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes (archived by $4m4el)

[Maths]

In-game name : Crapbaskets
Date of incident : 06/02/2019
Server : TWC|ND
Incident : I was in twc server and defeating this 3 new players of twc .
Reason of complaint : Unbalance team in the server even after me and butcher asked the twc players to switch
Name of person you are complaining about: lanttu , tuksi and tupakki
Have you ever been banned on any TWC server before : yes many times


The teams were unbalanced for almost like 10-15 mins before i made this video.
This video shows as of how butcher and i asked for a twc admin to switch to allies after it was 2 v 4 in venice map.
If this make any difference , these peoples started arguing me about the rules .
I know the rules very well as anyone does of twc nd.
I didn't feel obliged to make a video and post this incident if they had not used !put command on a guest , who most probably doesnt know about balancing the teams . He came to server and joined axis . Now instead of one of the twc member to have switched first , lanttu/tuksi used !put in teamchat/fireteam chat , thereby abusing the rights that twc has given them for fairplay.

I felt offended as to how supremes like megaslow and samael(one of the longest supreme) gave them level 6 or level 7 after applying for this level.

i simply didn't understand this and thought it to be wise and post one demo , so that some STRICT ACTIONS should be taken in future to encourage gameplay in the server.I hope the supremes will take a closer look in this incident and know why a server which ranked 4th or 5th in gametracker now hardly can make it to top 20 in the list.
That's all i have to say , the decision shall be of the supremes!

Edit : i went back to the server and still the teams were not balanced , resulting a guest to do rq . I mean there's so many less people playing still these new admins dont get how to be real admins.. (demo: twc2). With this amout of rq , the guest would not like to come back to the server , thats for sure..

Oh yeah and , lanttu and tuksi kept on spamming !owned continually everytime they killed me , i wonder how a guest will feel if they have to confront such admins , whom i asked as to why you do it , they say its a fun command privileged for admins , seriously...

[Tuksi]

I really didn't think it was you. Idk where the Maths went i remembered.
Anyways... i think we made it very clear that 4v2 isn't unbalanced teams since our rules says +3 is.
I don't know why would you start arguing about it bc rules are rules as we told you.
Your right, i did put him to allies since teams were 3v2, but he did come back to axis and i decided to not to put him again since you said about command abuse etc.

[Lanttu]

Bravo, a masterpiece with a ton of misleading info.

[Maths]

In-game name : Crapbaskets
Date of incident : 06/02/2019
Server : TWC|ND
Incident : I was in twc server and defeating this 3 new players of twc .
Reason of complaint : Unbalance team in the server even after me and butcher asked the twc players to switch
Name of person you are complaining about: lanttu , tuksi and tupakki
Have you ever been banned on any TWC server before : yes many times


The teams were unbalanced for almost like 10-15 mins before i made this video.
This video shows as of how butcher and i asked for a twc admin to switch to allies after it was 2 v 4 in venice map.
If this make any difference , these peoples started arguing me about the rules .
I know the rules very well as anyone does of twc nd.
I didn't feel obliged to make a video and post this incident if they had not used !put command on a guest , who most probably doesnt know about balancing the teams . He came to server and joined axis . Now instead of one of the twc member to have switched first , lanttu/tuksi used !put in teamchat/fireteam chat , thereby abusing the rights that twc has given them for fairplay.

I felt offended as to how supremes like megaslow and samael(one of the longest supreme) gave them level 6 or level 7 after applying for this level.

i simply didn't understand this and thought it to be wise and post one demo , so that some STRICT ACTIONS should be taken in future to encourage gameplay in the server.I hope the supremes will take a closer look in this incident and know why a server which ranked 4th or 5th in gametracker now hardly can make it to top 20 in the list.
That's all i have to say , the decision shall be of the supremes!

Edit : i went back to the server and still the teams were not balanced , resulting a guest to do rq . I mean there's so many less people playing still these new admins dont get how to be real admins.. (demo: twc2). With this amout of rq , the guest would not like to come back to the server , thats for sure..

Oh yeah and , lanttu and tuksi kept on spamming !owned continually everytime they killed me , i wonder how a guest will feel if they have to confront such admins , whom i asked as to why you do it , they say its a fun command privileged for admins , seriously...

I really didn't think it was you. Idk where the Maths went i remembered.
Anyways... i think we made it very clear that 4v2 isn't unbalanced teams since our rules says +3 is.
I don't know why would you start arguing about it bc rules are rules as we told you.
Your right, i did put him to allies since teams were 3v2, but he did come back to axis and i decided to not to put him again since you said about command abuse etc.

I think you don't get the idea ! , 4 v 2 is not balanced teams , you will know if you are one of of the 2

Bravo, a masterpiece with a ton of misleading info.

Don't worry lanttu , they will not ban you or demote you , you are just one of the scary cats i see ! Just hiding your nervousness by these "Bravo" words!

[Tuksi]

Again and again rules are rules, our rules says 4v2 isn't unbalanced so you just need to accept it

[Lanttu]

I know the rules very well as anyone does of twc nd.

the balance rule is +3, you seemed to have not gotten the message

[Maths]

I think you have been confused with that text , the real unbalance is when its +2 and i am pretty sure you guys know it , but tried to avoid me as you wanted to be in the winning team.
Instead of asking the supreme to correct that +3 to +2 you use it for an excuse.

Do you think butcher was a mad dog for asking one of the finnish guy to switch !
You should respect a visiting supreme . ATLEAST THINK WHY HE IS BEGGING TO SUCH A LOWER AND INEXPERIENCED ADMIN TO SWITCH ALTHOUGH HE IS LEVEL 100.

Clearly i hardly think you have actually read all the forum and in-game rule , and still got accepted as level 6 and level 7 without a dsecond thought. How can someone promote without actually their in-game activities seriously..

Just accept your fault already , think why butcher was yelling too..

[LouLou]

I seriously don't want to get involved between you guys, but the ND members are correct on this one, if on the forum a rule is written like this:

'#5. Balanced teams

When we talk about unbalanced teams that mean +3 players (e.g. 8 Axis vs. 11 Allies.). In this situation an admin can choose two ways to solve this problem:

Move a player; Members should ALWAYS swap theirself first. If no member is available, a guest should be asked to swap.
Use !shuffle command (its recommended to use this option as a last resort)'

Then the rule applies, as long as the rules haven't been changed I would think that the rules that are written are the ones to follow, even if its unfortunate and not fair.
That is all I have to say don't strike me for anything, just pointing it out to get this thread classified as fast as possible with both parties happy.

Good'ay

[Maths]

I seriously don't want to get involved between you guys, but the ND members are correct on this one, if on the forum a rule is written like this:

'#5. Balanced teams

When we talk about unbalanced teams that mean +3 players (e.g. 8 Axis vs. 11 Allies.). In this situation an admin can choose two ways to solve this problem:

Move a player; Members should ALWAYS swap theirself first. If no member is available, a guest should be asked to swap.
Use !shuffle command (its recommended to use this option as a last resort)'

Then the rule applies, as long as the rules haven't been changed I would think that the rules that are written are the ones to follow, even if its unfortunate and not fair.
That is all I have to say don't strike me for anything, just pointing it out to get this thread classified as fast as possible with both parties happy.

Good'ay

You are correct there , but the case was not 9 v 11 , it was 2 v 4 .
in a game of many players like that in server , which is very rare nowadays , the difference is hardly to be seen.
Lets just say in 2 v 4 , the two peoples in the 2 player team are inexperienced/not good in frags
And in one of the 4 , nirv/draken is playing. Nirv can easily take on 2 of those ppls easily , so its highly unbalanced as you can see , but if nirv switches to to 2 player team , its what we call a balanced team.That's my pint and what butcher was yelling , which no one paid a heed

[Tuksi]

I don't even want to say this but im still doing it.... rules are rules... according to our rules teams were not unbalanced... you just can't accept this or what's the problem?