Waking up BEGINNERS server (archived by The Master)

[Kjell]

It's a good idea about the banner system but you can't force people to play in an other server if they wish to join NoD. It could be a good thing, and they stay but it could be a bad thing.. It's something you can argue about and has to be analyzed before implenting it.

[Sky]

I forgot to mention it in my first post, but I'm not in favour of redirecting ND guests to our other servers ...

Why? Well it just feels 'unfair' to me to redirect our usual guests to other servers while they just wanted to play in ND in the first place. Those guests might aswell play another game if their favourite server isn't available for them to connect. If the servers had been extremely similar in gameplay/settings I wouldn't have minded it but right now even the mod difference is too big to neglect.

TLDR; Disagree with redirecting : Imo the decision of playing in a certain server shouldn't be forced to anyone

About the banners (firstly I'm not sure that the following really is possible with current jaymod scripts/settings) I think they would have more impact if they were only shown in situations where the players tend to RQ from ND. I'm thinking about situations where teams are at least 15vs15 and newbies become moving meat for more experienced players. The problem with banners is that people don't notice them when they're used to seeing them, which means that showing them only when the amount of players is high enough could be a good solution.

The banners could also be shown 24/7 though, I wouldn't mind it and it would be easier to implement

[The Master]

banners are a good idea but i dont think it will get beginners constantly active,
redirecting makes me rq et instantly it sucks really bad imo!

imo to get beginners a constant activety, we need atleast 20 active members to fill in the gabs the whole day, and we all know that is never gone happen. but its still a great server to play on from time to time or at the psa meetings.

[Fox]

If you make the ''banners'' commands in stead, only higher e.g. high admin and above - they could make use of it when server(s) are well visited (15vs15). But mainchat will get more messed up if people already typing alot. Maybe create one banner with ''Server too crowded? Check our other servers in our menu.'' Forcing indeed is not a solution.

[Paul]

As much as i hate to say it, beginners is never gonna get as active as i want it to be, simply because ET does not have the playerbase required to do so anymore, players seek players, activity creates activity.

I don't disagree with the banner idea to help us out at all, it's actualy not a bad idea, but its simply not going to change much, people connect to a server with a hmm.. 3v3 ? if you compare that to ND which usualy has a 20v20 going on, ND just looks more active and more fun obviously.
It's the same thing for the other servers, They'll never get the activity back like how it was in the early stages of ET.

Ofcourse we can try to get some people to come over to BG or the other servers, but 99% won't stay playing for more than a week simply because ND attracts more and more people.

The redirect is ofcourse a no-go, what would you do if you connect to your favorite server but you get shipped of to some other server you didnt choose for hmm? Exactly hehe

I like the idea, but it won't change that much to our situation. (But...who doesnt shoot doesnt hit afterall)

Paul.

[Sn4cky]

Except for the redirect idea these are all good but you can't just redirect people to a server they didn't connect to. What do you think how long will they stay there? Use a more aggressive advertising rather than mislead and trick people into doing something they don't want (remember pop-up ads?). The advertisement banners is the best idea so far, also direct contact with the players, actively inviting them when ND is packed, but that also takes the members to connect to other servers and show the will to play.

[yourdog]

These are both not a real good option. Imo

If we do it in a banner no one will notice it cause many people don't even pay attention to the banners when they are shown a couple of times.

Second if u spam the chat it is really annoying. And the chance u get people rq or spam to is alot bigger.

It's just like shockwave said people make people, if u look when it's psa then the server gets crowded and guests are coming.

No psa means no players.. Cause then they ammount of playes we have regularly isn't a tractive enough.

ET is a dying game we all know that and we can't force people to play on our other servers that's true.

Idk a good solution yet but I don't think that banners is THE option.
maybe we need more bg members but to get those we need players. And to get those we need to get guests. So the only thing I can suggest now is help from inside our own TWC members not only psa but also others to come and play ONLY IF U WANT and help BG out of the inactivity

[Hani]

+1 Yourdog.

Forcing ppl wont help neither they will care about the banners much.

My opinion/solution for this is to:-
Set up a timing for BG members to regroup and bring activity by bringing alot of BG Members in time to play (tl;dr : setting up something like members schedule )

More communication is required within members inorder to regroup easily.

Disadvantage : Some members wont be able to attend due to rl stuff i.e inactivity.

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This should be done daily if BG wants superb activity but it wont happen..

Atleast 6 BG members are required to play daily according to the time given for them to come and start testing activity.

[Makez]

Personally back in the day i used to prefer servers that were not fully loaded with players. I enjoyed playing 3v3 or 5v5 in beginners instead of getting spawnkilled by airstrikes in server with 40 players in it.

[The Master]

it wont change alot hani, cause its still not a constant activety, and we also dont have the ective members for it.
also i noticed that the geusts who do play there from time to time will rq if they see more people then a 3vs3 cause they like to kill bots or play small matches or cause they got rekt to bad idk.

ps yourdog the banners should not be in the chat but in the top of your screen, and even if the people dont notice it its oke cause those people are enjoying the game enough not to come anyway, but the people who feel bored and join spec might see it.