[Poll]New maps in ND? My favourite topic (archived by Tomahawk)

[Duka]

I was always talking to you, that my PC is so weak. That's the one of the main reasons why I left NAM. I could not play on NAM becouse of connection problems and too much amount of files to download.

[Storch]

e: like dukajek said too risky. Everything works as it should, many players, good atmosphere.. it would be a shame to destroy this.
I just mention the situation when joint changed sk rule - it was chaos. This can be repeated and we can lose a lot of regular players.

But you can't really compare this to one another. Changing the sk rule surely caused a big mess, but why would adding 1 or 2 new maps cause the same mess? We just have to think it out and prepare everything very well. There is no need to hurry, we have all the time of the world to think about an appropriate map etc

Personally I think that would be too much to download to still call the server No Download. Maybe rename it then? (Blue ^^)
We have other servers that could use attention, one even that fits your description... Allstars.

Indeed we should probably change the name, but the name should also not be so much different from No Download in my opinion, otherwise people wouldn't recognize the server anymore and maybe think it's gone.

@Alltstars: Well that's the well known problem in ET nowadays. It is sooo damn hard to establish a whole new Server and make it active. I witnessed so many attempts to do that, and all of them failed. We would need much more advertisment and people who are actually willing to help in order to make Allstars any active, but I don't see that at the moment, so I think it would be quite nonsense to try changing anything there and hope for people to come.

No: Axel can you remember the time where we changed No Download to Now Download it was a big mistake and i think it will come the same

Yes: sure it will be nice espically for rail but lol Rail is the only axis map in the standard six maps when then they should replace for a other axis map.

1) Can you or Axel or anyone else who was here back then explain what exactly you changed and why it failed so much? Maybe we can learn out of those mistakes now and try to make it more clever this time
2) I was thinking about the same, maybe we could add Caen as a new map. There, too, Axis have to attack, which would keep it a little more interesting for both teams, if they can so to say 'swap' their positions at least for one map.

Players are the most important. This is a bit too risky. We can loose them easily.

That is why we would only test it for 1 or 2 weeks. And we could make announcements that we will only do it for a little time at first, so if they really hate the new map so much, they could just return to the server when the test-phase is over. Besides, Rail Gun gets nextmap-voted soo often, why would anyone complain about removing it now and replacing it with an arguably much more interesting and entertaining map?

Minas Tirith is the worst map was ever made for ET. Nobody is playing it on NAM.

But if we will start downloading maps, my activity on TWC servers will be very poor.

Minas Tirith is indeed a bad idea, it's way too big and actually takes too much time to download. We can't just propose every map that comes to our mind now, it has to be a well known one and one which has about the same size like our current 6 maps.

Cmon Duka, we want to add 1 or 2 new maps, which would mean 1 or 2 times a download of about 30 seconds maximum. Is that really such a problem? And since we only want to use well-known maps, the chance is high that you already downloaded it somewhen in your ET time and don't have to do it again now. Even if not, I doubt your computer will explode if you have 1 or 2 new files on it


Overall I have to thank you all for voting so far. It's great to see so many people being in favour of this proposal. I have to say it again, this is not meant to be a big revolution or something. Just 1 or 2 new maps, the other 5 or 4 will remain the same so all the people who love stock-maps still have plenty of them to enjoy. But still, if this whole thing ends up in a disaster (which I can hardly imagine), I will gladly take responsibility too and take all the blame on me.

[led]

But is it possible to just add 1-2 new maps and keep all the 6 stock maps? I mean, the stock maps aren't that bad, and I doubt there is one map where 100% dislike the map ( well, maybe rail gun is close to that )

And about the ND name.. Sure, there will be downloads when new maps are added, and then "No Download" seems wrong :/
But think, does Apple sell apples?
Kind of a stupid point, but the name doesn't have to be politically correct

Would be nice to have new maps, but I wouldn't be sad if the maps stay the same

[Duka]

Cmon Duka, we want to add 1 or 2 new maps, which would mean 1 or 2 times a download of about 30 seconds maximum. Is that really such a problem? And since we only want to use well-known maps, the chance is high that you already downloaded it somewhen in your ET time and don't have to do it again now. Even if not, I doubt your computer will explode if you have 1 or 2 new files on it

Ok, I have told you a wrong thing. Ofc there is a big amount of files to download, I have also connection problems. But this textures of maps is making me very laggy. That's becouse of my graphic card, not very much RAM and poor processor. I asked an expert what does he think about my PC. He told everything I wrote before. But he also wrote that I should better start looking for a new PC, than repeairing this oldie. And you know my birthday is coming so..

Anyway, I like this testing idea.

[$!l3nc3r]

You made yourself a nice topic storch! ;-)
You have my vote.


-TWC|$!l3nc3r|LDR-

[Storch]

But is it possible to just add 1-2 new maps and keep all the 6 stock maps? I mean, the stock maps aren't that bad, and I doubt there is one map where 100% dislike the map ( well, maybe rail gun is close to that )

And about the ND name.. Sure, there will be downloads when new maps are added, and then "No Download" seems wrong :/
But think, does Apple sell apples?
Kind of a stupid point, but the name doesn't have to be politically correct

Would be nice to have new maps, but I wouldn't be sad if the maps stay the same

Yeah maybe it would be even better to just add the new maps up to our current 6 maps, that would please all those people who like Rail Gun and also offer a greater variety of maps.

About the name, I agree with you Led, I think changing the name could confuse some people. I'm not sure if everyone would immediately connect to a server called TWC-Blue (or any other name we choose) when TWC-NoDownload is not listed in the server list anymore. We could just as well just keep the name No Download. That's the way everyone knows the server after all. Who cares if it's actually NO download or not. I DON'T think people will leave the server thinking: "What?! This is called No download but I have to download 1 map?! What kind of *** is this ???" lol

@Duka: Alright then, it's less than 1 month to go until your birthday, I'm sure you would survive it until then right? :P


About the possible maps. As Chris said, I think Supply Depot might be too small, especially if there are more than 20 people in the server. And also the walljump problem might be uncontrollable there unless we have a script or something. I think another poll would be the best solution, where we could decide which map(s) we will choose.

For now it's more important to clear the general issue if we add any new maps or not. Those who voted 'No' and disagree should speak up and tell us their doubts so we / I can possibly convince you or clear things out. I don't mean to sound like it's decided already, but the result of the vote speaks a clear language I'd say :P

[Samba.*]

Yes, i think this is important for the server. Maybe we can try add 1-2 new maps? Why not? Much players likes the new maps..
You get my vote too <3
But which maps?

( I think Venice is a really nice map, and supply too)

[Axel]

I would say yes and of the other sit i would say no

No: Axel can you remember the time where we changed No Download to Now Download it was a big mistake and i think it will come the same

Yes: sure it will be nice espically for rail but lol Rail is the only axis map in the standard six maps when then they should replace for a other axis map.

Note: i think when you guys change allot now in the server then the guests come and say oh yeah new maps and what is with adre more damage fast fire other mod etc etc.....
One question Mimus and Lig created a new Server calls Allstars with tons of new maps but hmm i never see one there playing ?????????????


Greetz J0hnny

Johnny if u clearly remember our servers were only available to 2.55 et users and not 2.6b users.
After it was available to 2.6b users our servers gained activity again

I was always talking to you, that my PC is so weak. That's the one of the main reasons why I left NAM. I could not play on NAM becouse of connection problems and too much amount of files to download.

tbh I too have a crappy pc , u just need to make some changes like /r_texturemode gl_nearest_mipmap_nearest and other stuffs to reduce pc hangs and rest depends on ur internet.

And like storch and Antho said , we would only be replacing Railgun for now.

oh and I strongly agree with Chris about supply not being good for 10o10 , so I think we should add a map which would meet our server settings like snatch3.

And about those who think our server should be named into -TWC|Blue , well TM and AxE No Downloads server too have maps which needs to be downloaded but still have the text No Downloads

[Antho]

About the maps to be added. Remember that mapsize, downloadsize and manage-able rules are to be considered before proposing maps.

I personally still think c2_missile might work out nicely.
http://et.trackbase.net/map/158/

Supply may indeed be too small for huge amounts of players. Its downloadsize is something we should strive for though.

And like Storch proposed, adding one first to see how it works out can't possibly hurt us that much

[Axel]

About the maps to be added. Remember that mapsize, downloadsize and manage-able rules are to be considered before proposing maps.

I personally still think c2_missile might work out nicely.
http://et.trackbase.net/map/158/

Supply may indeed be too small for huge amounts of players. Its downloadsize is something we should strive for though.

And like Storch proposed, adding one first to see how it works out can't possibly hurt us that much

Maybe we should try caen2 ? so that atleast axis get 1 map to do obj then actually defend it.
Anyways missle looks good too.