[Poll]New maps in ND? My favourite topic (archived by Tomahawk)

[Storch]

Hello there, I know what you're thinking: 'Oh please not again!' But before you instantly vote for 'No', let me explain to you what I am proposing and why I am doing it.

Today in ND a nice little chat about possibly adding new maps to the server came up. In fact about half of the people took part in it and supported the idea. I think that's mostly because by now we have gathered a quite big group of guests who have been playing in ND for several months and get a little bored of the same maps.
I personally thought this is only a phenomen among Clan-members, who are here for a long time and obviously need some changes now and then. But as we all know ET is a rather old game and there are hardly any people who discover it as a new game and play it for the first time. That's why we don't really have to aim to satisfy newbies in this game anymore, which was the case with these easy stock maps. We can surely expect them to get along in some other maps as well.

The map Rail Gun gets skipped through the !next map vote every second time anyway, so we wouldn't even have to add more maps, but simply replace new maps with Rail Gun or Radar (where most ppl complain it's too easy for Allies with Double Jump anyway).

I'm guessing the most suitable and also most popular maps besides our stock maps are: Supply Depot, Venice or Snatch.

Of course there will come up the usual complaints:

"
1) It's NO download, we can only have stock maps!
2) The server is doing great, why change anything?!
3) We would have to rearrange the SK areas and Wj rules for the new maps
4) Probably something else which I didn't think of now
"

Solution:

1) It would be only 1 or 2 (more) downloads. Everyone has to download the Jaymod file anyway, when he connects to our server for the first time, so it's not even NO download in its actual sense right now. 1 download takes maximum 30 seconds? And you have to do it only one time. Most of the people downloaded those maps in their ET time already anyway. And even if not, I doubt those 30 seconds will make people cancel the download and never connect to the server anymore.

2) We're doing really great at the moment indeed, but it could be even better and those new maps would make the whole thing a lot more interesting. I'm noticing that many ND-members aren't really active, that may also have other reasons, but I can imagine very well that they are a little bored of the same thing again and again.

3) If you want I would take care of the Sk areas and the Wj rules. I would make all the necessary screenshots and explanations and I would be very eager and active to explain it to all the guests the first few times when we play those maps.

Anything else? I would be very glad to answer all your questions and concerns

Of course we would have to make another poll for the maps which would eventually be added. But in first place I wanted to make sure whether my impression is wrong or if there are more people thinking the way I do


Storch

[Dream]

We discussed this in game already, I would like to see 1 or 2 additional maps

[Axel]

Ah storch now I love you more , a few days back while seeing TM No Downloads server with download maps , I thought the same thing.

Well we already had the thingy about 2-3 years back , but it wasnt succesful BUT IT WAS MOSTLY CUZ OUR SERVERS AT THAT TIME WERE AVAILABLE ONLY TO 2.55 ET PLAYER.

But now u can see they r available to all 2.55 , 2.60 , 2.6b players.
So yes I agree we should give it a try ignoring the fact that "OH NO THE SERVER IS RUNNING SUCCESSFULLY WE SHOULDN'T MAKES CHANGES"

The reason I agree are :
1 : Well TM and aXe too have No downloads servers but they too have maps which u have to download.
2 : Moreover even if u say no download ...well u DO HAVE TO DOWNLOAD JAYMOD AND ENCHMOD.So as storch said , after u download the maps once, u can come to the server w/o needing to downloading it.
3 : Our servers are now available to 2.6b users now also.

My fav maps that we should try : Supply depot , adlernest , Special Deliver_TE , frostbite , et_mor2 , Summer Radar , Goldrush_sw(aint sure if we should replace goldrush :P)

[Storch]

Is it possible to make the names of the people visible who voted at the poll already? I saw it somewhere before but I didn't know how to do it. So if someone knows it, feel free to edit the poll, I would be grateful.

By the way, of course we can first test those new maps for like 2 weeks and see how the guests react on it. If the server activity drops, we can of course go back to our old 6 stock maps.

[Axel]

By the way, of course we can first test those new maps for like 2 weeks and see how the guests react on it. If the server activity drops, we can of course go back to our old 6 stock maps.

I agree and well we will add just 1 man instead of railgun then slowly add more new maps

[Antho]

@Storch: Done.

[Storch]

Thanks Antho

then slowly add more new maps

Yeah but I would say not more than 3 new maps. We shouldn't overdo it and give those people who are happy with the current mapcircle a basis of at least 3 classic maps. The exact way how and which maps we add has to be cleared later, first I wanted to check the general attitude towards this change. But apparently many people think the same way like I do, which really pleases me. Especially if I remember how the same proposal was always rejected just about half a year ago.

[Hannibal]

Nice idea i agree with it thank you Storch

[Antho]

I'm okay with replacing supply for railgun. However, I'm not a 100 percent positive about replacing radar with snatch or venice. Since we're talking about newer maps, why not add some actual new maps with about the same size. Library and missile fit this requirement and it is also fairly easy to create rules for these maps, since spawns are mostly inside + trickjumps aren't really possible to gain advantages.
Crossfire on library: http://www.crossfire.nu/news/7221/a-new-...he-horizon

Either way, I'm fine with dropping the more conservative point of view. Be it with the necessary rationalisation required regarding mapsize, how hard rules are to maintain, and .pk3 size. Yes, .pk3 size. We should still strive for small downloads. This is possible by resizing ingame pictures, n stuff like that.

E: Moan, would you be willing to look into anti-wj scripts for supply? Else it is gonna be wj paradise with double jump on....

E2: Playing stock maps in HD is still possible on ND, just download the z_hdet pk3 from somewhere on the internet and put it in your etmain folder. You might experience lower fps rates, but it modernises the look of ET a little

[Eru Chitanda]

The maps I'd really want to see on our server would be:
-1st= supply
-2nd=sp_delivery_te
-3rd=frosbite or adlernest