Building PC

[Andre]

I certaine will buy a separate GPU, that will surely be the most expensive part of the PC as well as the PSU. I heard that people using APU in dual graphics, integrated GPU in the APU + PCIe x16 Graphic Card, but anothers says that this method haven't high performance, so it's useless...

Alt, o usi la gpu integrata nell'apu, o usi la gpu esterna. e ovviamente usi l'esterna che è molto più potente. le schede grafiche integrate sono molto limitate, utili solo nel caso di pc non utilizzati per il gaming, ma per normale utilizzo.

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Stop, either you use the gpu integrated in the apu, either you use the external gpu. obviusly you will use the external since is way more better. Integrated gpus are very limited, just useful if your pc is not used for gaming,but just for normal use.

Io sapevo che AMD è specializzata in ambito gaming mentre Intel più su ambito video editing...
Comunque oltre alla GPU spenderei anche sulla PSU, parte che molta gente sottovaluta...

è esattamente l'opposto, i processori amd sono generalmente dotati di piu cores, quindi sono più adatti a funzioni di multitasking , editing etc.
i processori intel hanno meno cores, ma i singoli cores spingono da paura, portando enorme vantaggio in ambito gaming, meno in ambito lavoro.

Completamente d'accordo sul PSU. io a mio volta spesi quasi 160 euro per seasonic x gold ( tra i migliori sul mercato ), che tra le altre cose protegge anche dagli sbalzi di tensione, o improvvisi black out. minimo minimo, ci vuole un psu bronze di qualità.

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it's exactly the opposite, amd cpus generally have more cores, so they are more suited for multitasking functions, editing etc.
intel cpus have less cores, but each of the single core work really well, bringing lots of benefits in gaming, less in work stuffs.

Completely agree on PSU. myself i spent almost 160 euros for a season x gold (one of the best in the market), that between all the stuffs it does, it also protect from suddendly blackouts or power surges. minimun i would get a bronze rated PSU of quality.

Thx for your info m8. It helping. I did consider the 970, but imo its to expensive. over here hte 970 costs €360! I decided that is to much... (sadly)

then if the 200-250 euros range is your sweet place, then i would go with the r9 280X


ps:i'm looking also for your request duka, it's just a bit hard moving around PL sites and stores and work with that price range, but i think i'm not far for having a sample configuration just for starting. hang on

[djuki]

then if the 200-250 euros range is your sweet place, then i would go with the r9 280X

Could you specify this? I see alot of differences.

The R9 290x got the lowest speed.
GTX 960 1,241GHz / R9 280X 1GHz

lowest mem:
GTX 960 4 GB/ R9 280X 3GB

low memspeed (DDR)
GTX 960 7,01GHz/ R9 280X 6GHz

Higher bus speed:
GTX 960 128 bit/ R9 280X 384 bit

Lower HDMI version
GTX 960 HDMI 2.0 / R9 280X HDMI 1.4

But maybe most imporant DirectX
GTX 960 DirectX 12.0 / R9 280X DirectX 11.2

Besides, I hear bad stories about AMD's drivers. I think you mentioned that yourself. Also the ADM is 1, year older as the NVidea .

[Andre]

the 280x outplay in the 200 euros ( so with the 960 of 2 gb version) the 960 in basically everygame. you forgot to mention that the 280x has twice as much shading units and texture mapping units. but that TRIPLE quantity of bus respect the 960 basically kill it .

it doesnt' take much to make a easy research on frame rates of this 2 gpu's. some example:

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/...IEW-35.jpg

http://candytech.in/wp-content/uploads/2...chmark.jpg

http://benchmarkreviews.com/wp-content/u...-1080p.png

i could post infinite number of them, but i guess a video can even prove it better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEWABNJi6Rc


the 4gb version , at that price , face against the r9 290 (that cost few euros more) and get drastically obliterated.


yes, as i said i prefer nvidia over amd, especially for drivers, but at lower prices ranges in gpu's , at least for me, i prefer amd. after the 300 euros spot, i 'll take nvidia anyday.


Plus also in a previous thread, even mystik said it:

Why dont you buy the GTX 960? newer and better chips. Besides on the 16th (on the E3 Expo) of June there will be a new release of AMD's new Radeon 300 series. And Ill bet the prices of the GTX 960 will go down aswell. ATM the are about €217,-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZPrcYkJg7o

http://videocardz.com/55734/amd-radeon-3...-june-16th

Well at the GTX 960's pricerange, it competes with the R9 280X, which reks it in pretty much every game, at the cost of higher temps and higher power consumption. And with the 3xx series coming, both 280X and 960 prices could drop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdsDRChgXA0

[JohnC]

What about this: http://www.amazon.it/Intel-3-20GHz-Graph...el+i5+4590

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Ok, I made my own configuration:

PSU: Corsair CX500M 500W 80Plus Bronze €77
CPU Intel Core i5-4590 3.3 GHz €201
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212EVO €32
Motherboard: Msi H97 €85
RAM: DDR3-1600MHz Kingston HyperX Fury Black Series €57
GPU: PNY GeForce GTX 960 2GB GDDR5 €196
Case: iTek INVADER R03 €37
SSD: SanDisk SSD 64GB €44
HDD: I will recycle my WD WD5000AAKX 500GB for Storage
ODD: Also recycle my LG GH22NP20

[Andre]

if the 960 it's your choice, i would just take another brand instead of PNY, couse they use just one fan ( like stock) so that means loat of noise for decreasing temperature of the gpu when in load. if they are in same price , i would gather a MSI, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC or ASUS version.


btw when i click on the link it bring me up the i5 4460. the i5 4590 is damn good!

ps: i would spend few euros more and grab the 850 evo, or at least one with 120gb. trust me, you will need 30-40 gb for os plus programs, and you must NOT make full a ssd, it always has to have like at least 20gb free , always.

[Mystik]

if the 960 it's your choice, i would just take another brand instead of PNY, couse they use just one fan ( like stock) so that means loat of noise for decreasing temperature of the gpu when in load. if they are in same price , i would gather a MSI, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC or ASUS version.


btw when i click on the link it bring me up the i5 4460. the i5 4590 is damn good!

This. MSI one for 211€
http://www.amazon.it/MSI-Geforce-GTX-960...ds=gtx+960

Also that SSD is quite small, maybe invest in a 120GB model? :P My Windows folder alone takes over 30 GB (Win 7 64bit)

I'd recommend Samsung 850 EVO, which is definitely faster than that SanDisk one (69€)
http://www.amazon.it/Samsung-MZ-75E120BW...=ssd+120gb

Here are some 120gb options
http://www.amazon.it/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?...Assd+120gb

[JohnC]

if the 960 it's your choice, i would just take another brand instead of PNY, couse they use just one fan ( like stock) so that means loat of noise for decreasing temperature of the gpu when in load. if they are in same price , i would gather a MSI, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC or ASUS version.


btw when i click on the link it bring me up the i5 4460. the i5 4590 is damn good!

ps: i would spend few euros more and grab the 850 evo, or at least one with 120gb. trust me, you will need 30-40 gb for os plus programs, and you must NOT make full a ssd, it always has to have like at least 20gb free , always.

if the 960 it's your choice, i would just take another brand instead of PNY, couse they use just one fan ( like stock) so that means loat of noise for decreasing temperature of the gpu when in load. if they are in same price , i would gather a MSI, GIGABYTE, ZOTAC or ASUS version.


btw when i click on the link it bring me up the i5 4460. the i5 4590 is damn good!

This. MSI one for 211€
http://www.amazon.it/MSI-Geforce-GTX-960...ds=gtx+960

Also that SSD is quite small, maybe invest in a 120GB model? :P My Windows folder alone takes over 30 GB (Win 7 64bit)

I'd recommend Samsung 850 EVO, which is definitely faster than that SanDisk one (69€)
http://www.amazon.it/Samsung-MZ-75E120BW...=ssd+120gb

Here are some 120gb options
http://www.amazon.it/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?...Assd+120gb

I think that I will install programs in the 500Gb HDD, and will install in SSD only O.S.
However, i'm out of budget xD Total it's 729 €, my budget is 600€...
So I will look an Asus or MSI GTX 960...
Question about the PSU, it's ok 500W power or I must increase ?

[Andre]

I think that I will install programs in the 500Gb HDD, and will install in SSD only O.S.
However, i'm out of budget xD Total it's 729 €, my budget is 600€...
So I will look an Asus or MSI GTX 960...
Question about the PSU, it's ok 500W power or I must increase ?

perfectly fine, your pc will use at max load probably 150-200 watts, so there should not be any problem at all.

[djuki]

Hi lads.

I got a new PC.
Instead of buying a new one I bought a 2ndhand

Spec's;

i7 4.2GHz,
500GB SSD,
16GB RAM,
GTX TITAN,
1.5TB HDD

[Andre]

Holy moly, that is a beast xD