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Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes (archived by $4m4el) - Maths - 06-02-2019

In-game name : Crapbaskets
Date of incident : 06/02/2019
Server : TWC|ND
Incident : I was in twc server and defeating this 3 new players of twc .
Reason of complaint : Unbalance team in the server even after me and butcher asked the twc players to switch
Name of person you are complaining about: lanttu , tuksi and tupakki
Have you ever been banned on any TWC server before : yes many times


The teams were unbalanced for almost like 10-15 mins before i made this video.
This video shows as of how butcher and i asked for a twc admin to switch to allies after it was 2 v 4 in venice map.
If this make any difference , these peoples started arguing me about the rules .
I know the rules very well as anyone does of twc nd.
I didn't feel obliged to make a video and post this incident if they had not used !put command on a guest , who most probably doesnt know about balancing the teams . He came to server and joined axis . Now instead of one of the twc member to have switched first , lanttu/tuksi used !put in teamchat/fireteam chat , thereby abusing the rights that twc has given them for fairplay.

I felt offended as to how supremes like megaslow and samael(one of the longest supreme) gave them level 6 or level 7 after applying for this level.

i simply didn't understand this and thought it to be wise and post one demo , so that some STRICT ACTIONS should be taken in future to encourage gameplay in the server.I hope the supremes will take a closer look in this incident and know why a server which ranked 4th or 5th in gametracker now hardly can make it to top 20 in the list.
That's all i have to say , the decision shall be of the supremes!

Edit : i went back to the server and still the teams were not balanced , resulting a guest to do rq . I mean there's so many less people playing still these new admins dont get how to be real admins.. (demo: twc2). With this amout of rq , the guest would not like to come back to the server , thats for sure..

Oh yeah and , lanttu and tuksi kept on spamming !owned continually everytime they killed me , i wonder how a guest will feel if they have to confront such admins , whom i asked as to why you do it , they say its a fun command privileged for admins , seriously...


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Tuksi - 06-02-2019

I really didn't think it was you. Idk where the Maths went i remembered.
Anyways... i think we made it very clear that 4v2 isn't unbalanced teams since our rules says +3 is.
I don't know why would you start arguing about it bc rules are rules as we told you.
Your right, i did put him to allies since teams were 3v2, but he did come back to axis and i decided to not to put him again since you said about command abuse etc.


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Lanttu - 06-02-2019

Bravo, a masterpiece with a ton of misleading info.


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Maths - 06-02-2019

(06-02-2019, 03:52 PM)Maths Wrote: In-game name : Crapbaskets
Date of incident : 06/02/2019
Server : TWC|ND
Incident : I was in twc server and defeating this 3 new players of twc .
Reason of complaint : Unbalance team in the server even after me and butcher asked the twc players to switch
Name of person you are complaining about: lanttu , tuksi and tupakki
Have you ever been banned on any TWC server before : yes many times


The teams were unbalanced for almost like 10-15 mins before i made this video.
This video shows as of how butcher and i asked for a twc admin to switch to allies after it was 2 v 4 in venice map.
If this make any difference , these peoples started arguing me about the rules .
I know the rules very well as anyone does of twc nd.
I didn't feel obliged to make a video and post this incident if they had not used !put command on a guest , who most probably doesnt know about balancing the teams . He came to server and joined axis . Now instead of one of the twc member to have switched first , lanttu/tuksi used !put in teamchat/fireteam chat , thereby abusing the rights that twc has given them for fairplay.

I felt offended as to how supremes like megaslow and samael(one of the longest supreme) gave them level 6 or level 7 after applying for this level.

i simply didn't understand this and thought it to be wise and post one demo , so that some STRICT ACTIONS should be taken in future to encourage gameplay in the server.I hope the supremes will take a closer look in this incident and know why a server which ranked 4th or 5th in gametracker now hardly can make it to top 20 in the list.
That's all i have to say , the decision shall be of the supremes!

Edit : i went back to the server and still the teams were not balanced , resulting a guest to do rq . I mean there's so many less people playing still these new admins dont get how to be real admins.. (demo: twc2). With this amout of rq , the guest would not like to come back to the server , thats for sure..

Oh yeah and , lanttu and tuksi kept on spamming !owned continually everytime they killed me , i wonder how a guest will feel if they have to confront such admins , whom i asked as to why you do it , they say its a fun command privileged for admins , seriously...

(06-02-2019, 04:20 PM)Tuksi Wrote: I really didn't think it was you. Idk where the Maths went i remembered.
Anyways... i think we made it very clear that 4v2 isn't unbalanced teams since our rules says +3 is.
I don't know why would you start arguing about it bc rules are rules as we told you.
Your right, i did put him to allies since teams were 3v2, but he did come back to axis and i decided to not to put him again since you said about command abuse etc.

I think you don't get the idea ! , 4 v 2 is not balanced teams , you will know if you are one of of the 2

(06-02-2019, 04:22 PM)lanttu Wrote: Bravo, a masterpiece with a ton of misleading info.
Don't worry lanttu , they will not ban you or demote you , you are just one of the scary cats i see ! Just hiding your nervousness by these "Bravo" words!


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Tuksi - 06-02-2019

Again and again rules are rules, our rules says 4v2 isn't unbalanced so you just need to accept it Smile


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Lanttu - 06-02-2019

(06-02-2019, 03:52 PM)Maths Wrote: I know the rules very well as anyone does of twc nd.

the balance rule is +3, you seemed to have not gotten the message


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Maths - 06-02-2019

I think you have been confused with that text , the real unbalance is when its +2 and i am pretty sure you guys know it , but tried to avoid me as you wanted to be in the winning team.
Instead of asking the supreme to correct that +3 to +2 you use it for an excuse.

Do you think butcher was a mad dog for asking one of the finnish guy to switch !
You should respect a visiting supreme . ATLEAST THINK WHY HE IS BEGGING TO SUCH A LOWER AND INEXPERIENCED ADMIN TO SWITCH ALTHOUGH HE IS LEVEL 100.

Clearly i hardly think you have actually read all the forum and in-game rule , and still got accepted as level 6 and level 7 without a dsecond thought. How can someone promote without actually their in-game activities seriously..

Just accept your fault already , think why butcher was yelling too..


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - LouLou - 06-02-2019

I seriously don't want to get involved between you guys, but the ND members are correct on this one, if on the forum a rule is written like this:

'#5. Balanced teams

When we talk about unbalanced teams that mean +3 players (e.g. 8 Axis vs. 11 Allies.). In this situation an admin can choose two ways to solve this problem:

Move a player; Members should ALWAYS swap theirself first. If no member is available, a guest should be asked to swap.
Use !shuffle command (its recommended to use this option as a last resort)'

Then the rule applies, as long as the rules haven't been changed I would think that the rules that are written are the ones to follow, even if its unfortunate and not fair.
That is all I have to say don't strike me for anything, just pointing it out to get this thread classified as fast as possible with both parties happy.

Good'ay Biggrin


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Maths - 06-02-2019

(06-02-2019, 07:21 PM)LouLou Wrote: I seriously don't want to get involved between you guys, but the ND members are correct on this one, if on the forum a rule is written like this:

'#5. Balanced teams

When we talk about unbalanced teams that mean +3 players (e.g. 8 Axis vs. 11 Allies.). In this situation an admin can choose two ways to solve this problem:

Move a player; Members should ALWAYS swap theirself first. If no member is available, a guest should be asked to swap.
Use !shuffle command (its recommended to use this option as a last resort)'

Then the rule applies, as long as the rules haven't been changed I would think that the rules that are written are the ones to follow, even if its unfortunate and not fair.
That is all I have to say don't strike me for anything, just pointing it out to get this thread classified as fast as possible with both parties happy.

Good'ay Biggrin

You are correct there , but the case was not 9 v 11 , it was 2 v 4 .
in a game of many players like that in server , which is very rare nowadays , the difference is hardly to be seen.
Lets just say in 2 v 4 , the two peoples in the 2 player team are inexperienced/not good in frags
And in one of the 4 , nirv/draken is playing. Nirv can easily take on 2 of those ppls easily , so its highly unbalanced as you can see , but if nirv switches to to 2 player team , its what we call a balanced team.That's my pint and what butcher was yelling , which no one paid a heed


RE: Unbalance team for more than 15 minutes - Tuksi - 06-02-2019

I don't even want to say this but im still doing it.... rules are rules... according to our rules teams were not unbalanced... you just can't accept this or what's the problem?