Paavo and Pimp (archived by NightFall)

[James Bond]

I think your best solution is to ignore, best you can do. Trust me.

This^

They just do it on you because you react to it, just ignore and when they notice that you don't react to that anymore, they will stop it. Easy.

Snowman speaks out of experience xD

For real James, U have a point but without proof admins can't do anything. Others pm an admin!

Robert, please. You know what I am talking about and EVERY admin knows it. I just need your word that the next time I get proof they will be banned. They will probably stop it then (that's the only thing I want), but if they don't then they deserve to be punished. As I keep saying IT IS IN YOUR RULES!!! You are not doing me any favor. You either promote or prohibit such behavior, as simple as that.

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James you are mad on admins since they do not react on Paavo's or Pimpi behaviour. I was there today, and yes, Paavo & Pimp were provoking James, calling him camper (?), also I was when Pimp was talking about Greece. As far as I remember he didn't say anything really offensive, only James took it too serious. Every ND guest and member has used to they behaviour and like really no one take them serious, and just laugh. I don't know how we can punish them. Rather just warn.

Kokok isn't it in your rules that if a player has this behavior he should be warned, warned + muted (twice), kicked and then banned? It's not that the have done it once.
In a previous case when I asked why I wasn't warned and was kicked immediately, I got the answer that I am experienced in this server and so this procedure doesn't apply to me, but only to newer players.
Furthermore, you say noone takes them seriously. Who ever stats a conversation with them he may asks for an insult. I NEVER start it. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM. If it had happened once then this is something I could have dealt with without your interference. But this is happening EVERY time. I am not mad with admins. I just wanted this to be taken seriously because it has gone too far, that's why I started this post.

[Coffee]

It’s not like he’s trying to get into a fight, guys. Even f you don’t like James (heck, do I even? What do you know). It just needs to be done with some people.

It’s a rather difficult situation. Some people whine too much about being bullied, some never complain and take matter in their own hands. Others just suck it up. It’s up to you, HA’s (!!!!), to pick up the signals when someone is REALLY at its low point and is being honest about this.

Seems only fair that HA’s involved have a talk with the guests involved. Considering these three peoples are regulators (big time regulators) it’s not weird at all to try and solve this.

Just my opinion now; I do think James is fed up and being honest. I’d be too. Step aside of what you would do, and GIVE IT ATTENTION. A short post in this section is not gonna cut it.


Ok bye.

[Friendzone]

(no offense)

I totally disagree with points like:

-ignore it
-they just do it cause u react
-dont pay attention

we have clear rules (james already pointed them out) how to handle a case like this and we should follow this rules.

Also talking bullsh*t about someones nationality is definitly (for me) crossing the line.

[Nirv]

https://board.twcclan.org/thread-144.html

Guests are welcome to report unruly / inappropriate behaviour of clan members in the forum. However these must be accompanied with proof : screenshots / demos ( *.dm84 and *.dm82)

accompanied with proof

proof

proof

proof

[Haures]

I was there and in my opinion this has been going for too long. Paavo and pimps can shout almost everything without anykind of consequences since people know em too well. Imo both of em should be punished.

[Vegehan]

I agree with Coffee on this one. This behavior is not okay, James has the right to be offended and our rules should protect him against this.

[Kornie]

Proof? Seriously guys?

Anyone who has ever played in ND same time with Paavo knows he is a fucking retard. Tryhard objective nerd who is constantly insulting, whining and telling others what to do and always blaming his team is shit. I already tried to get him banned once but because of lack of evidence it didn't happen.

About Pimpus, I've never seen him insulting anyone, but he is always speaking dutch or finnish in main chat without any consequences.. If any other visitor says one word of finnish or dutch, he is instantly warned or muted. I understand if you want to keep regular visitors happy and give them some privileges, but when other visitors (in this case JamesBond) has to suffer from it, maybe it's time to do something.

Just sayin..

[Senpai]

Never thought they will cause such pain here lol. However, being strict is inappropriate thing.

Regarding pavo, admins may got used to his shit too much indeed. I suggest 7 days ban with REMINDER.
In the other hand, Pimpi changed his attitude towards JamesBond it seems. He doesnt deviate from the norm imo.

he is a fucking retard

I fucking like swearing too but you should think twice before calling anyone retard, especially in public.

[Haures]

I was there and in my opinion this has been going for too long. Paavo and pimps can shout almost everything without anykind of consequences since people know em too well. Imo both of em should be punished.

[Kornie]

Never thought they will cause such pain here lol. However, being strict is inappropriate thing.

Regarding pavo, admins may got used to his shit too much indeed. I suggest 7 days ban with REMINDER.
In the other hand, Pimpi changed his attitude towards JamesBond it seems. He doesnt deviate from the norm imo.

he is a fucking retard

I fucking like swearing too but you should think twice before calling anyone retard, especially in public.

Sorry.