uh oh (archived by NightFall)

[The Master]

etpro died imo 50% cause off sarahs bad attitute, but this has nothing to do with it and this is not what the complain is about.

don't be ridiculous lol

etpro died because et is dying as it has been for over 4 years now

you are right but thats the other 50%:P
anyway back to the topic.

[kurd'ich]

Note . Who wants to play ETpro just pm me.

p.s : delete that stupid server.. stupid rules. no referees.?? put 1-3referees who dont abuse. anyway not gonna play there.
ServerOwner; sn4cky The time when i joined and leaved TWC havnt seen sn4cky and he is owner haha gl guys on that server.

xD back to the topic.

[Poseidon]

This is because Snacky had his finals coming and told everybody about that on forums.
Anyway none of the last posts have to do something about that topic so please use the current topic about etpro. I am sure that somebody will answer your questions.

[Sky]

Lol are you perhaps friends with JamesBond[GR] ?
I can't believe people get into their paranoia that much and can't just understand that some people are plain better players ... Vogel is not cheating and I'm not saying that because he is my close friend or anything, I did spec him hundred or times (not exaggerating) just like I did spec hundreds of good players, and he's legit. You seem to really hate him actually and I think it's troubling your judgement , if you search for hacks in a demo you'll always see stuff that confirms your thoughts because your mind is focussed on the idea that you're right, if you look for actions where it clearly shows that someone is plain legit however you often realise that your initial statement can be put into doubt, you should try that

[kzAh]

I actually played on etpro yesterday as nimbus, i was with vogel in one team, heard the accuse , never really watched him play as i was busy on my phone. But the moments i did see i saw one moment where i thought wtf ? Although that could have an explanation too. Anyways yesterday was too short of a time to actually accuse someone of cheating. It would be best for both parties if someone with common gamesense checks the demo. And not one of vogel's friends. Everything should go as it should be after.

[Coffee]

Can someone neutral with ET-brains have a look before we all get suspicious? Sorry, no offense but this doesn't seem to be working for either party

[Sn4cky]

p.s : delete that stupid server.. stupid rules. no referees.?? put 1-3referees who dont abuse. anyway not gonna play there.
ServerOwner; sn4cky The time when i joined and leaved TWC havnt seen sn4cky and he is owner haha gl guys on that server.

Boy I've been around when you were just a thought. Next time watch what you're talking.

The referees have been stripped of their powers because some were abusing it. I was asked by MST to change the referee password and give it to nobody to avoid more problems. I don't make up the rules either so if you want to change something just post about it. I manage the server so if you have any server related issues you contact me, my name is on that server for this sole purpose only. I won't be bothered by your stupid flame wars on that server because I'm not interested / had enough of it already. I'm not your parent to solve your problems for you. I make sure you are able to spend quality time on the server, I'm not the one to blame that you can't...

[Storch]

I think as long as the et pro people are divided into certain groups there will never be a good atmosphere in the server. Every group is just fighting the other, no matter if it's about accusations of cheats, insulting or whatever. And of course if one of the group will start a fight, all the others will back him/her up. I suggest you guys just get over yourselves for once and leave these group fights aside.
About that Vogel-cheating thing. Has anyone of those who claim that Vogel is innocent even watched those demos? That's the least one should do before deciding to back Vogel up in my opinion. I myself can't do it because my laptop won't let me start ET for more than 5 mins these days and I'm not such a super expert with cheats anyway. Still, I know that Vogel is a great player and I think if he really cheated on et pro and made up so many different names and all, it would be punishment enough for himself already, having to cope with his own conscience^^ Might sound weird, but that's how I see it, because I think it would be utterly ridiculous and hypocritical to cheat, while being such a good player already and a high admin + member of the demo team, who works in order to catch other cheaters...

[kzAh]

I'd like to hear vogel himself about it, doubt that he's cheating though, my game sense isn't good enough to cast a decision on whether he cheats or not

[optee]

Like I already said before in ban proof , I don't think the person in those demos is cheating.
It just looked to me like that was Vogel. That's all.