New server (archived by John)

[iTim]

I like the idea, I'll let you know that first.

And I think using the ETPro mod, and make the server a public server would be the best. Since you do not see many of 'em around, and the existing ones are either American servers (not preferable for me) or the atmosphere is just horrible (abusive admins, thrashtalking members/visitors).

But please, make this server same as Allstars meaning:
- No recruiting to the server itself
- No members
- No supreme (will be a huge levelhunt, since it's ETPro)

Instead, try to make a level for New Members to our clan and a level for members who are over a month/2 months in the clan. Including all Members/HA's (Supremes?).
Maybe add a level for Supremes to keep an eye on the server, and ban/kick if nescesarry.
Please give me your opinion about this, since we all want our servers to be 'clean' but not an extra server that'll cause damage to our exisiting teams. (Tranfers will come if it'll be a server with members on it's own, and don't forget my 3rd point listed above)

About the mod itself, it would be quite useful to add KMOD.
Since KMOD is a good mod for customizable admin levels, and add extra features such as:

- Killingsprees plus all the other killingspree type stuff (Sounds Included) Messages and location can be changed in config.
- Doublekills, Multikills, Megakills, Ultrakills, Monsterkills, Ludicrouskills, and Holyshits (Sounds Included) Messages and location can be changed in config.
- Flakmonkey's - When you get 3 kills with either panzer or a riflenade.
- Firstblood w/ sound and message
- Lastblood w/ message
- Spreerecords
- The PM-tool with /ma or /pma (sends a private message to all level 2+ admins)
- Antiunmute
- Advanced Adrenaline
- Killer's HP
- Advanced players
- Chat log
- Crazygravity (just in case, for fun)
- Team kill restriction
- /kill Limit
- Endround shuffle
- Noise reduction
- Spawn kill protection
- Automute

This is how I think about it, feel free to give your opinion and ask anything if you want to.

[Kerny]

I like the idea, I'll let you know that first.

And I think using the ETPro mod, and make the server a public server would be the best. Since you do not see many of 'em around, and the existing ones are either American servers (not preferable for me) or the atmosphere is just horrible (abusive admins, thrashtalking members/visitors).

But please, make this server same as Allstars meaning:
- No recruiting to the server itself
- No members
- No supreme (will be a huge levelhunt, since it's ETPro)

Instead, try to make a level for New Members to our clan and a level for members who are over a month/2 months in the clan. Including all Members/HA's (Supremes?).
Maybe add a level for Supremes to keep an eye on the server, and ban/kick if nescesarry.
Please give me your opinion about this, since we all want our servers to be 'clean' but not an extra server that'll cause damage to our exisiting teams. (Tranfers will come if it'll be a server with members on it's own, and don't forget my 3rd point listed above)

About the mod itself, it would be quite useful to add KMOD.
Since KMOD is a good mod for customizable admin levels, and add extra features such as:

- Killingsprees plus all the other killingspree type stuff (Sounds Included) Messages and location can be changed in config.
- Doublekills, Multikills, Megakills, Ultrakills, Monsterkills, Ludicrouskills, and Holyshits (Sounds Included) Messages and location can be changed in config.
- Flakmonkey's - When you get 3 kills with either panzer or a riflenade.
- Firstblood w/ sound and message
- Lastblood w/ message
- Spreerecords
- The PM-tool with /ma or /pma (sends a private message to all level 2+ admins)
- Antiunmute
- Advanced Adrenaline
- Killer's HP
- Advanced players
- Chat log
- Crazygravity (just in case, for fun)
- Team kill restriction
- /kill Limit
- Endround shuffle
- Noise reduction
- Spawn kill protection
- Automute

This is how I think about it, feel free to give your opinion and ask anything if you want to.

1*

Agree with almost everything... I have forgotten about some stuff and thanks for your post...Yea It will be better to dont recruit into server. At this time, we should make just people that will keep eye on server. I think that recruiters and highter level that would be interested could get some level in that server to kick ban mute atc...And lower levels have to ask for that commands (if they are credible they can get that level)

Level list could be like
lvl 1 Friends...
lvl 2 Credible Members of other servers
lvl 3 Rec and Up
lvl 4 - Supremes Owners


Also please all of you, just comment and tell us your ideas I'm glad you are interested

[Dupix]

Kmod +1
No recruiting +1
No members +1


''Level list could be like
lvl 1 Friends...
lvl 2 Credible Members of other servers
lvl 3 Rec and Up
lvl 4 - Supremes Owners ''

+1

[iTim]

I like the idea, I'll let you know that first.

And I think using the ETPro mod, and make the server a public server would be the best. Since you do not see many of 'em around, and the existing ones are either American servers (not preferable for me) or the atmosphere is just horrible (abusive admins, thrashtalking members/visitors).

But please, make this server same as Allstars meaning:
- No recruiting to the server itself
- No members
- No supreme (will be a huge levelhunt, since it's ETPro)

Instead, try to make a level for New Members to our clan and a level for members who are over a month/2 months in the clan. Including all Members/HA's (Supremes?).
Maybe add a level for Supremes to keep an eye on the server, and ban/kick if nescesarry.
Please give me your opinion about this, since we all want our servers to be 'clean' but not an extra server that'll cause damage to our exisiting teams. (Tranfers will come if it'll be a server with members on it's own, and don't forget my 3rd point listed above)

About the mod itself, it would be quite useful to add KMOD.
Since KMOD is a good mod for customizable admin levels, and add extra features such as:

- Killingsprees plus all the other killingspree type stuff (Sounds Included) Messages and location can be changed in config.
- Doublekills, Multikills, Megakills, Ultrakills, Monsterkills, Ludicrouskills, and Holyshits (Sounds Included) Messages and location can be changed in config.
- Flakmonkey's - When you get 3 kills with either panzer or a riflenade.
- Firstblood w/ sound and message
- Lastblood w/ message
- Spreerecords
- The PM-tool with /ma or /pma (sends a private message to all level 2+ admins)
- Antiunmute
- Advanced Adrenaline
- Killer's HP
- Advanced players
- Chat log
- Crazygravity (just in case, for fun)
- Team kill restriction
- /kill Limit
- Endround shuffle
- Noise reduction
- Spawn kill protection
- Automute

This is how I think about it, feel free to give your opinion and ask anything if you want to.

1*

Agree with almost everything... I have forgotten about some stuff and thanks for your post...Yea It will be better to dont recruit into server. At this time, we should make just people that will keep eye on server. I think that recruiters and highter level that would be interested could get some level in that server to kick ban mute atc...And lower levels have to ask for that commands (if they are credible they can get that level)

Level list could be like
lvl 1 Friends...
lvl 2 Credible Members of other servers
lvl 3 Rec and Up
lvl 4 - Supremes Owners


Also please all of you, just comment and tell us your ideas I'm glad you are interested

Yeah I agree, using this type of adminsystem will be better than mine.
I rushed a little with creating the post, since I just wrote what came up my mind.

+1 for those adminlevels.

[Bread]

creating a new server in et?

that won't gain popularity, no matter how hard you try.

the closest thing to "success" for Allstars AKA old BG was when imma was supreme.

allstars was popular in the very beginning, then people stopped caring, therefore

the server died

--

Don't get your hopes up, I doubt they will put on and I also doubt it will get active.

[Antho]

Might work if you advertise it properly on trackbase and crossfire. But you should improve your current model by adding some more / improving your variables before even thinking of advertising.

One being the amount of people required to get the server started, you'll need 4-6 nice and decent guys playing about 3 to 5 hours a day during primetime for at least a month or two. Else it simply isn't attractive to keep playing and coming back to the server.

Secondly, have you considered the things that could differentiate this server from its competition? We don't stand a chance if all we offer is a comparable server with JUST better management. People hate change, thats a fact. And lots of people love internet thrashtalking. So you only ideallistically could rely on solely a nicer playing environment to attract players.

Thirdly, are you sure this is the right time to start a new project? Our best shot would be something like.... nbs going offline for a while, giving us the chance to try and replace it.

Fourth, mapcycle or single map unlimited timelimit? Campaign style with xp reset after each campaign? Have multiple campaigns with different maps? What does the competition do?

Final thing you shouldn't forget is the role of anticheat, what is our point of view going to be? Will we follow the trend of re-enabling punkbuster?

Oh and are you sure about running saberpeak and northport on an etpro server?

[iTim]

creating a new server in et?

that won't gain popularity, no matter how hard you try.

the closest thing to "success" for Allstars AKA old BG was when imma was supreme.

allstars was popular in the very beginning, then people stopped caring, therefore

the server died

--

Don't get your hopes up, I doubt they will put on and I also doubt it will get active.

I'm not quite sure about it Chris, it's not really supposed to be a server with overactive guests imo.
It'll be more like a server to have fun on and frag.

Since alot of people in our clan (including me) would love to play on a ETPro server which is 'ours'.

And sure, it won't be a really active server, but I'll visit it daily since I love ETPro.
And why shouldn't we atleast give it a shot? Worse than Allstars atm is in my opinion not going to happen.

But ofcourse, it's up to the MSTs.
If they think it's not worth trying, than it's their decision and we'll have to accept it.

It's still a project though, which is swarming around for a while.

[Mimus]

Well, ofc I see lots of people bash allstars, but what you guys seem to forget is that allstars indeed is a server that was originally made based on members suggestions in order to have a server for fun and frag, without having a memberbase, where you can play anything you want.

I dont want you to convince you into keeping allstarts, MSTs usually just do what members want, eh? As long as it doesnt hurt the clan.

But I want to show you why some of us are more than a bit uncertain if that new server will work.
So, what is it that you want?

1. ETPro Server
2. Without recruiting (at least atm)
3. Objective mode
4. with friendly fire enabled
5. Changing maps from time to time
6. No members /supremes
7. Just a few levels like member, admin etc.

Now, what did/does Allstars offer?

1. Server with a mod that is to be decided by the members, meaning if people want Etpro people get Etpro. Atm its jaymod, because people voted for it.
2. No recruiting
3. is supposed to be an obj server for those who dislike the continous fragging in ND
4. Just like mods, all other settings can be voted for by the members(dj, ff, etc.)
5. Also maps can be decided upon and changed whenever they wish by the members
6. Allstars doesnt have members, and just a few admins chosen by the MSTs, who are also "the supremes" of Allstars because of, obviously, theyre the MSTs in general
7. Because of point.6, there are not a lot of levels. I think it used to be member, admin, supremes?


So, as you can see, we already have a server that would offer you everything you seem to wish for.
I see lots of people +1 the Etpro mod, and I guess lots of you think: Hey, we ALL love ETpro/this admin system/the new server in general/whatever, lets DO this.

But why didnt you do it in the past, then? Why didnt you take the oppurtunity to take your rights and use the Allstarts server the way you want to?

In the past, members wanted to have more rights. They wanted to be able to actually decide things, instead of just giving suggestions and having to bear (from time to time) admins and supremes who are not what they were supposed to be. Because of that, as some of you might remember, the whole MST group splitted. Big discussions, angry words, people getting hurt.

But in the end, you members got your rights for decision-making. But you do not seem to use it, atleast not on allstars. Maybe the server just got forgotten, but what, just imo, is the main problem is motivation.

Sure, right now you are super excited to have a new server, new mods, new maps. Maybe, if the server comes true, some of you will play a few weeks from time to time (thats also what happened in allstarts). But sooner or later, most of you, if not all, will give up.
I dont want to be mean, dont get me wrong. Its just experience thats talking right here.

Its hard to stay in en empty server, waiting for guests, actively playing and not just sitting in spec tabbing into ET from time to time. Its hard to spent days in a server with no or just a few guests, but you can not expect to have a full server within a week or two.


One of the main reasons allstars died, sniper is empty, and also headshot still struggles from time to time is just.... a lack of motivation. Continous motivation.
Its absolutely understandable, If you come home from school/work/family, you want to play a bit ET and have fun, not sit in an empty server waiting for things to happen.


And I fear that the above will just aswell happen to that "new server", not matter what mod, maps, settings it has.
As long as we do not have people who will BE THERE. Who will play there, no matter how empty the server is, or how more fun other people have in full servers. Who will sit in this server hours and hours, days and days, weeks and weeks.

And who are actually certain they can do the mentioned things, and not just yell out a "lets do it!" without knowing the own amount of motivation.

[Dupix]

I am sure etpro will do better than allstars. There are just a few etpro servers left and I think ET lacks etpro servers atm. Most people of the tj community prefer etpro over any other frag mod. I bet I can convince many tj guests to play on our etpro server.

[Kerny]

Mimus, but there is still 1 problem with Allstar. I dont know why, but i cant see that server. Im connecting into game and I can see every 1 TWC server but not Allstars..I dont know if its because of 0 players in game or its some kind of bug...

Yes, most of us like to play in ETPro and thats why I want it... Ok with headshot its hard to make it active and to dont feel boring I would like to changes...So I can play about 2 hours in Headshot and 2 hours in ETpro because its different Its hard to make server active in few people but for me, it doesnt matter. If I find 5 players we can play 3v3 in Etpro for few maps and Im sure that many people would come to play with us =) Even if the ETpro wont be that active it still will be better then Allstar (Im full of jaymod )

So its up to you MSTs if you agree with us and would change that server for us.... We would keep voting about that server, asking for new maps ...... but it will be ETPro ..our Etpro :P