TWC MEMBERS REUNITE!!! (archived by iTim)

[Andre]

Those decisions clysma were up to mst. And mayhem one day made this http://board.twcclan.org/thread-2142.html and situation changed way more in a better way.


I still support the suggestion of a new supreme. Easy example? Ocean.

[Kjell]

ND collapsed when indeed Chuck was inactive, but becouse the other supreme Schaapje let his IRL friends high admins abuse, break rules and poo without noone doing nothing. That was the reason why ND lost so much activity. Luckly since they are gone, situation gone bit better week for week. And personally i find ND enjoyable , more than the obscure abuse past.

E: Hani and the rest who thinks that the reason of TWC being inactive nowadays, isnt all about cause school, work, jobs and holidays anymore. Wake up.

This..

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Ocean for supreme!

[Storch]

Could we maybe stop searching for people to blame? What does it matter who's mistake it was, it is past now and can't be made undone. And it would be far too easy to blame it all on 1 single person anyway. Why are we even discussing about ND? We have around 30 players in ND at the highpoint of each day, has it ever even been so good in the 'good old times' / 'back then when everything was better' ?

We should rather focus on the other TWC servers which are almost dead. But it's no surprise anyway, I don't think there is any clan in ET left that manages to have more than 2 active servers, maybe FA but any other? It's just not possible in the current state of ET. The game is certainly not getting younger, so we can either keep believing that it's because of school, holidays or work and blame it on that, or we start facing the truth and maybe even consider removing 1 or 2 of our servers. It is for the sake of the entire clan. I experienced exactly this problem in my old clan, and the clan collapsed at this. I would not like to see the same happening to TWC.

I think we should start talking to the admins of the most inactive servers and possibly come to an agreement to switch to another TWC server and remove the inactive server instead. Of course we can still try to 'fight' for the inactive servers and continue dreaming of the glory times, but history and experience has taught me and probably many others too, that this won't have much success. It is just very exhausting to work so hard in vain. So instead of seeing all the admins of the inactive servers leave sooner or later, we should give them a chance to find their fun in this game on another server.

That's the first idea that comes to my mind at the moment. Apart of Teammate no one else seems to have better ideas yet.

[a TEAMMATE]

consider removing 1 or 2 of our servers

Absolutely.. but as always supreme will complain that they're server is gone bla bla and nothing will be done...

Sniper and Carnage are practically dead. We can go on and create special member unit to play in these server but the reality is that a server to work NEEDS REGULAR PLAYERS NOT ONLY MEMBERS!!
These servers are dead not now, but MONTHS ago. We tried to propose something new and they said "no, things are fine, create some events and ppl will come"... it's NOT WORKING! Let's be honest and admit that pushing members back and forth in servers will not make activity go high!!
How you think that a server can work with 7 or 9 members?? And why when somebody who is not a MST or supreme suggest something new you always say no no no no???

Let's put the puzzle pieces together, reunite all the active members, remove those who don't care about TWC and let's fix the servers once and for all!

Who cares who made bad choices, now we have to to think FOR THE CLAN!!!
And please give opportunities to other ppl, it seems that always the same persons gets promoted... this is getting annoying!!! There are brilliant ppl here with great ideas that are left alone because MST or supremes have to put they're friends in the position to make changes and these are the results...

There are people here with enormous power WHO DON'T EVEN PLAY ET ANYMORE AND NEVER WILL!!!. I know people have personal life etc but then give power to people who ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME!!!!
Who plays regularly and suggests something new is treated like a newcomer or a whiner... this must be a joke!!!

ND IS NOT THE PROBLEM. IF YOU THINK THAT ND IS THE PROBLEM THEN YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE SERVER LATELY. ND IS ALIVE, THE OTHER SERVERS ARE THE PROBLEM!!!!

[Mimus]

To get TWC up again, or better: to give it a boost, theres no need and it doesnt help to blame each other.

ND has always been a server that was pretty full, due its gameplay. all the other servers are, lets say "special". Sniper, Headshot, Tj.... V is, apart from the supremes there doing really well, a server quite similar to ND - more than e.g. sniper.

Not blaming ND or its members - people make people. ND tends to "suck" people from other servers. Lets give it a lil mathematical example: Usually ND has 200 players, and other servers 100. ND is going good, but also the other servers have enough guests to be active.
If holidays start, people go on vacation and ND has 100 members - other servers more or less none. Those "low-times" tend to make members wish to transfer to another server, or at least they have less interest in playing on a server with no guests, if they can play on one with at least a few.
Now, when the low-time is over, guests come back and see other servers empty, with less members. SOme of them transfered, some just made friends in ND and still wanna play there. Finally, the more guests see that ND is going good and the other servers have just a few remaining guests and members, ofc they rather play in ND than make the other servers popular again.

In the past time, due to transfers, leavings and the lack of an active PSA/PEO time, there just was nothing that could fill the servers. Carnage was just a try, and was set up in agreement of the (though few) remaining BG members at that certain time. I dont want to sy Carnage is a good or a bad idea, but that Carnage did not help fill the server again isnt the fault of this mod, but it happened (or better: nothing happened) due to the reasons mentioned above.
As of today we have a revived PSA/PEO team (SAT), and the guys there are already doing their best. With them and the help of some brave members who go and play on empty servers (someone always has to be the first to play somewhere, others will follow), Im sure our inactive servers will prosper - though i understand and think about the idea of removing servers.

[a TEAMMATE]

Mimus it's not only that. The fact is that there is no cooperation between supremes. What is the problem in putting some banners in ND to advertise guests that TWC it's not just ND??

But it will never be done because there is competition between servers!!!

[Storch]

Removing Carnage and Sniper would have 2 possible advantages:
- the few admins of those 2 servers which are left, can transfer to another TWC server (not necessarily ND!) and make it more active
- the few visitors of those 2 servers might chose another TWC server and make it more active

The disadvantage is of course that you guys have good memories to those servers and maybe don't want to give it up that easily (I already see the usual complaint posts of imma, sky etc coming ).
But then you have to ask yourself this question: What is more important for you, the past of TWC or the future of TWC ?

Of course you might think it is easy for me to say all this since I play in ND which is very active. But I just like playing for objective in Jaymod, and I always did. I can't help the fact that ND is the most popular server here. And I also try to play in HS and Nam a bit more recently, and I will try that even harder in future.

[yourdog]

Ffs if u guys try and play on carnage then u will fucking notice that there Is a fucking lag for over 2months now and its server sided I cant help it.!!

Im fucking done woth the complainig and whining about the server.

I CANT DO ANYTHING TO FIX THE LAGS AND THATS THE REASON WHY WE ARENT ACTIVE.

[xAeroX]

Removing Carnage and Sniper would have 2 possible advantages:
- the few admins of those 2 servers which are left, can transfer to another TWC server (not necessarily ND!) and make it more active
- the few visitors of those 2 servers might chose another TWC server and make it more active

I dont think thats a good idea..

[a TEAMMATE]

Is there at least ONE thing which everyone agrees? We are going nowhere...