Fault tolerance vs. stability (archived by Joint_PK)

[Joint_PK]

The CPU is not the problem at the moment, the hdd can't coop with the speed nod writes.

They are still investigating

[Chuck]

Let them test with a SSD if possible or put the same hdd as the prev machine.

The almighty Chuck. Proud supreme & Supporter of -TWC|

[Storch]

All I can say for the moment is, that the the servers, and especially ND are lagging quite a lot recently and at times it is not even playable anymore. I'm wondering, if we would stick to the new system with 1 specific IP for each server, how likely is it that these problems get fixed soon?

Also I'm wondering, why did we change from single server to more servers in first place? Is the only advantage that we have a different IP for each server, or are there more advantages?

I personally didn't have any problems with the earlier system either, so I wouldn't mind going back to that, if that is the best and fastest solution to fix the problems in the server.


Regards,
Storch

[Ligustah]

Thanks for your participations so far. I'll try to add a list with arguments for either of the options.

[Ligustah]

All I can say for the moment is, that the the servers, and especially ND are lagging quite a lot recently and at times it is not even playable anymore. I'm wondering, if we would stick to the new system with 1 specific IP for each server, how likely is it that these problems get fixed soon?

I'm working with the tech support to see if there is a way to sort out all the problems.

Also I'm wondering, why did we change from single server to more servers in first place? Is the only advantage that we have a different IP for each server, or are there more advantages?

Please see the update to my initial post for some of the reasons.

Ligustah i might have a suggestion.

Go back to how it was with the new machine rig cause this one has much better cpu so it can handle the servers just fine on one complete machine .
And maybe if its not to expensive put like between 6 to 8 gig of ram and give ND cause its the most active and highest slot server 1 gig of ram.
Cause i readed the specifications of the new Intel Xeon we have and that one is freaking awesome.
I think if you would do that, that the lag on ND once in a while with the old AMD Opteron Cpu will be gone with the Intel Xeon.

The dedicated server I would order instead of the virtual servers would be the Level 3 Linux server on this page: https://www.strato-pro.com/ger/root-server/

Code:

Intel® Xeon® E3-1230v2 (Ivy Bridge) 4 x 3,3 GHz 8 GB

The old machine was:

Code:

AMD Opteron™ 1381 4 x 2,5 GHz 4 GB

This should probably be able to run the game servers more smoothly.

However, please have a look at my first post in this thread, which I just updated with some of the arguments for and against each of the options.

All the virtual servers I can currently set up with 60€ have about 10 cores and 10 GB RAM combined (just to get you an idea of the cost/benefit ratio).

-- Ligustah

EDIT:

I would like to ask all people who asked for the pro-/contra-list to reconsider their vote based on what I added to my initial post.
If you are still unsure about which way to go, just wait some more time for me to add more to the list.
Thanks.

[Chuck]

Well that is also a good cpu but its a bit less then the cpu we got now, but further a great cpu.
But its better then the old system, so i would go for the new rootserver with Intel Xeon.
For the people who want to see some spefications here are the results from AMD and Intel

AMD Opteron™ 1381:

Processor
Quad-Core AMD Opteron™
Model
1381
AMD Virtualization Technology
Yes
AMD-P (Power Management)
Yes
OPN Tray
OS1381WGK4DGI
OPN PIB
OS1381WGK4DGIBOX
Revision
C2
Core Count
4
Base Speed (MHz)
2500
System Bus Speed (MT/s)
2200
Voltages
1.050 - 1.225V
Max Temps ©
70'C
Wattage
75 W
L1 Cache Size (KB)
128
L1 Cache Count
4
L2 Cache Size (KB)
512
L2 Cache Count
4
L2 Cache Speed (MHz)

L3 Cache Size (KB)
6144
CMOS
45nm SOI
Integrated Memory Controller Speed (MHz)

Floating Point Unit
128-bit FPU
Socket
AM3

Also there stands no threads in it but i found out it has 4 threads, means 4 less then the Intel Xeon

Intel® Xeon® E3-1230v2:

Status Launched
Launch Date Q2'12
Processor Number E3-1230V2
# of Cores 4
# of Threads 8
Clock Speed 3.3 GHz
Max Turbo Frequency 3.7 GHz
Intel® Smart Cache 8 MB
DMI 5 GT/s
Instruction Set 64-bit
Instruction Set Extensions AVX, SSE4.1,SSE4.2
Embedded Options Available No
Lithography 22 nm
Max TDP 69 W

[Andre]

i go with old system servers

[Teleport]

If the new systems are able to be fixed, then it would be much better than the old systems. Or, maybe we could run on the old systems, and meanwhile ask the guys at Strato to continue working for a fix for the issue, and as it is fixed, port to the new systems.

[Morey]

For me, I prefer stability due to my very high ping (350+).
But for the clan, majority have a low ping which obviously correlates with great stability.
So fault tolerance would be my preferred choice.

[Joris]

Sorry, but since the server change I've seen more problems with the server (ND) and more people getting bothered by these problems, I hope you can take the descision quickly, so we can go back to normal, because this will cause guests leaving..

Joris