Beginners ADVANCED PLAYERS

[HeXomega]

Really the rambo medic tactic doesn't matter that much.
The skill gap between some players is that huge, that you still can get 60+ Kills and win the map even if you play engi/field ops/panzer.

It's all about aim, movement, map knowledge and decision making.

[LePresident]

Just an idea... do all classes have the same damages ?
Isn't it possible to increase damages to medic, something like +5% or +10% damages ?

Could balance the situation.

Also,
if a medic can back and heal, other classes can still back and find a health cabinet.
Not so easy, but ...

Also #2,
if you have difficulties to back, then you can do training sessions when there is nobody on the server, with bots.
Start a game, engage a fight, and force yourself to back when needed, find heal, then go back to fight...
Don't focus on frags or objective, just fight and back, fight and back, ... !
You can do this for about one or two games, as a warm-up before playing regular games.
I think if you set this a routine for one or two weeks, it could help.

Also #3,
we could plan training sessions on BG, where people would come to be coached by skilled players.
Something like one player vs bots in a time-limited game, 2, 3 or 5 minutes, others players would watch and explain in a debriefing what was good, what was wrong, define exercises...

Also #4,
Nowadays, there is a lot of video game coach, to help players to progress.
And most of them preconize to record game sessions, to watch them afterwards, and take time to analyse what are the player's mistakes and weaknesses.

[oslslasher]

I believe that by increase damage for medics you mean the taken damage. As far as I know the damage in ET is based on weapon only regardless the mod.

[OldRabbit]

Again HEllo - i guess the problem is that the high skilled playa choose the team like - mmh - easier to frag or have "fun" - not for the team or the clan - like darky said - a team with 2 against 5 "no skill" playar is andavanced so much - and i saw a lot that " rambos" or high skilled" used it also or only to have fun and thats not the same theme - i talked on discord about - the balance to know which playar have maybe a skill to play is usefull as well - so some playars should choose the other team - but they didnt - often ....

the quest is this a beginner server??? gggr - i asked this 5 times on discord -so i must be directly agree with spit - and also agree with all - and thats the big big problem -why the admins change it and make few teams with diff skills - and yeah train rookies - include me - its a better option for the future - or here on forum - no ban no kick -

it should be a "skillED ppl" team rule!! ....but thats not possible with mods on server - only with rules - on TWC - for beginners - advanced - or skilled ppl..

Otherwise -iF always or often "a highskilled" playar - punished the beginner - should he be banned .

Regards

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P.S. Presi . so pls balance it - just choose a number and try it out - i will check then number '4

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i recame to this game for weeks - and i really need to learn again - but some guys - the< are not real - i spec them - i will dont say names - i played this game till 20 years i guess - and iam not so good, but .. I know that some playar use "human cheats" to have fun ... u all guys know this that thes cheats are useable - i didnt know it - since 4 weeks, i googled it - other theme - AND i dont wanna frontin someone - but those playars are on the beginner server else well

[Nirv]

I would rename beginners into battleground, it stays BG and the complain regarding skilled players would cease ^^

On a serious note, is there still real beginners on ET in 2020 ?
Most of the less skilled players play also since many years, so they are not really real beginners.

They are just not as good as others

Creating an etpro server is not a solution either, most New etpro servers are dead and empty and I don’t see the point.
To be honest for casual public player like me, jaymod and nitmod are my favorites.

Anyway...
Im hère to help any players who are willing to get a config and improve slightly

My advice : when you play, try putting your crosshair at head level. Most of you guys are aiming at foot and then wonder why you don’t give headshots ...
Help yourself with walls, try stay as much as possible at the level of opponents’ head

[|Warden]

Nirv is totally right, you can't find pure "beginners" server in 2020 when it comes to ET. Just look at TM, FA, eG, DIABOLIK and yes TWC beginners server. Most of these servers have at least 10-15 good (but not pro players) and those Guys are just trying to play normally, I mean attacking/defending the obj, by using every single class. The other side is the group of etpro players... well some of them are trying to play like the mentioned good players, and some of them don't give a f*ck about the whole game and the meaning of "beginners server". Most of them select medic class to get as many kills as they can with this "run n heal" tactic. - So yeah rambomedics cause a lot of headache during the game, but you can modify a lot of medic related stuff in nitmod cfg, to reduce the difference between medic and other classes.

Just an idea... do all classes have the same damages ?
Isn't it possible to increase damages to medic, something like +5% or +10% damages

Ehm, what are we talking about? Infliction of damage or recieving damage? The first one is quite hard without overwriting scripts or mod related files (or even the source code). The second one is much easier bacause you can set the desired HP value for each classes:



Infliction of damage is the same, but you can set 100 HP for every class so pro/good and beginner players would get equal chance to play. (100+X HP is okay but it shouldn't be that much, because we are talking about a "beginners" server).

And limiting classes is also an option:


On the other hand, this training session is not a bad idea, but it really depends on the will and ambitions of BG memberbase. Idk if most of these Guys come to play for entertainment or better aiming/moving, but if you start a new business like that, then you should keep it limited for pure BG members and eliminate players with decent and "god" skills. Why? Because there wouldn't be any difference between the regular BG and training BG servers.

I just wanted to share some brainwaves with you, I hope you'll find the best way to keep BG server running.

Have a nice day!

[Mystik]

Nitmod has those funky wall mines right? You could fix this by giving players more of the shit heavy weapon etc. tools like the wall mines. Increase amount of mines and rockets and then lower the soldier chargetimes for panzer etc. and surely everyone that can actually play the game will migrate to more appropriate servers like ND.

| TWC | Boomers would be a cool rename as well

[HeXomega]

| TWC | Boomers would be a cool rename as well

Please rename to Boomers!

[oslslasher]

Creating an etpro server is not a solution either, most New etpro servers are dead and empty and I don’t see the point.
To be honest for casual public player like me, jaymod and nitmod are my favorites.

As Lanttu mentioned in another post HS is closed for recruiting. You could change the mod to etpro 1/ week so the clan dont have to setup another new server just change the other one. Not sure how much effort this would take tho.

[Bread]

BG was never truly a "Beginners" server. Nitmod wasn't meant for Beginners, smaller hitboxes. If you want a "Beginners" server I suggest you change the mod to Jaymod, but I highly doubt that would go over well with your playerbase.