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Our Current situation.
#21
(11-12-2016, 01:21 PM)Sn4cky Wrote: Things got out of hand lately I have to say and while an apology was indeed in order everyone can see that Shock and the rest of the guys still got off the hook way too easy (I hope you realize that an apology is the least that's due). On the other hand it's not only shockwave who needs to apologize in my opinion.

I would like to add that I am also sorry. It was not my intention to put my post in a way that Headshot is not spared from saying sorry, I think everyone should apologize for what they did including myselfs. I should have mentioned that earlier. I realize it is a huge step for Shockwave as well to put this thread out there.
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#22
Im also sorry for the things Ive said in private to others, it came out of anger and all the small things that were add to eachother. Both sides said and did wrong things in the end. I hope this will all end soon and we can play in every server with fun and no drama.
#23
(11-12-2016, 01:21 PM)Sn4cky Wrote: Things got out of hand lately I have to say and while an apology was indeed in order everyone can see that Shock and the rest of the guys still got off the hook way too easy (I hope you realize that an apology is the least that's due). On the other hand it's not only shockwave who needs to apologize in my opinion.

Impact I think you're lost in your own thoughts, PsA has many things to do with this as well. What PsA has been doing lately was a disgrace to the name and the clan. Now I don't want to bring that discussion here as this is an apology but don't you dare to relieve PsA of its crimes because it played a huge role in the drama (you might not realize because you were in it).

As I like to say our actions define us so I don't like to believe fancy words. I think I can safely say that we (the rest of the members) are eager to see the changes mentioned above.

+1

I'm a little sad that only Shockwave has eggs to say 'sorry'. I don't want enter into discussion. From my side I said everything in this topic. I hope that from tomorrow everything will be alright like a few moths ago. It is time to cut off this sh*t. If someone is offended by my words I'm sorry. From tomorrow I want see friendly and smiling people who not whining, provokes, making drama, incites from both side. Me and all HS are open to begin our relationship again.

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#24
I feel like tomany people point fingers at others, that wont help, start looking at yourselves instead might actualy solve things.
It's not meant as an offence but as an actual way to get things over with.
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#25
(10-12-2016, 07:13 PM)Shockwave Wrote: Hello peeps,

As we all know by now, there is some drama between HS-BG, and its dragging even other people in right now, i hope we all agree this has to end.
I dont know when it started, neither do i know what caused it, but all the small things add up to eachother and cause the frustations among eachother.

This has to stop as soon as possible. So hereby i ask our BG members to stand down on the drama, the trolling, the disrespecting, and all the other bullshit. Neither of us wants to get kicked out of TWC i assume, cuz thats what'll happen if this continues. And yes, that includes myself and some other people (The ones that are will know it themselves)

I hope that the other people involved do the same thing, it used to be fun playing on other servers, having fun with eachother, laugh and some friendly banter. But right now , its just not.

I myself have been involved in this aswell, and i apologise for that to everyone that felt offended. Someone has to take the first step so solve this bullshit, but why not do it all together? Ofcourse some frustations stay at first, but time will tell. For now, lets just stop the nonsense and have fun again.

~Shockwave



Hey Shockwave,

at first I want to say that it was a great decision to open this thread and also to be the first one to apologize in the name of all involved BG members. This is how a good supreme acts.
Now to the topic:
That HS-only vote thing quite a while ago was the beginning of the drama that caused so many problems and according to some posts here still exists. I have seen the HS logs from that day as all the others who were on the server back then, it is more than obvious that PsA has to be included in this discussion.
The former leader silently left the project so you became the one in charge but for the next weeks quite few things have changed as you and Speed had the same opinion on what you have called 'a server worth to play on' and 'a dead server', even if according to gametracker statistics this dead server had a higher rank than both of them mentioned above.
As a former PsA member myself I was quite disappointed to see where this is leading to and the meeting yesterday is the reason I am posting this right now.

Shock, you are a good supreme who always tries to do things the best way possible for your server. And because this interest is coliding with the duties of a PsA leader I have a suggestion to make. In all hierarchical structures it is usual that after a scandal the highest in position has to take the consequence and step down.

And after all of these small and big issues this is the only logical step to take to symbolize the end of the conflict.

P.S. This post was not to cause more and more drama, if somebody who was not addressed by me is not agreeing and wants to discuss it please PM me Smile
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#26
You are obviously referring to panzerwar. This thread is about the HS-BG drama, in which PsA is NOT involved.
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#27
PsA as a whole has nothing to do with 1 guy voting, i hope you understand that aswell. And i dont see a scandel in any form, im not ''leading'' psa at all. im simply a moderator of it, everyones opinion counts. I feel like tomany people look at psa the wrong way without even knowing what is being discussed, so please, if you have no valid information, dont start talking about it. You're refering to months ago, its not the same thing anymore.
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#28
hmmz whats going on...? i have miss something i think..Smile
#29
(11-12-2016, 07:01 PM)Robbert Wrote: I hope this will all end soon and we can play in every server with fun and no drama.

+1 About time

(11-12-2016, 07:01 PM)Shockwave Wrote: I feel like tomany people point fingers at others, that wont help, start looking at yourselves instead might actualy solve things.

Very true.

Nice post Shock and thx for being the first of everyone involved to adress the issue.

(11-12-2016, 07:01 PM)Shockwave Wrote: PsA as a whole has nothing to do with 1 guy voting, i hope you understand that aswell. And i dont see a scandel in any form, im not ''leading'' psa at all. im simply a moderator of it, everyones opinion counts. I feel like tomany people look at psa the wrong way without even knowing what is being discussed, so please, if you have no valid information, dont start talking about it. You're refering to months ago, its not the same thing anymore.

+1

(11-12-2016, 07:01 PM)Poseidon Wrote: Shock, you are a good supreme who always tries to do things the best way possible for your server. And because this interest is coliding with the duties of a PsA leader

That very same thing is applicable to the old PsA administration
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#30
(11-12-2016, 07:55 PM)SpeeD Wrote:
(11-12-2016, 07:01 PM)Poseidon Wrote: Shock, you are a good supreme who always tries to do things the best way possible for your server. And because this interest is coliding with the duties of a PsA leader

That very same thing is applicable to the old PsA administration

ye back then there where also discusions about it, but that has nothing to do with this now imo,(actualy i know it for sure unless it is like a revange)
but i am glad you admit it, i still remember people saying (including you) they could do the job much much better, but tbh it is worse. (no offence ment but i think it might be a good idea for some changes). and lets hope every1 can get along nicely again soonSmile
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