uh oh (archived by NightFall)

[Sarah]

hi, although i didnt have the best reputation at twc scrim i havent done anything wrong at twc nd and would like to think made some friends. this is why i am posting a complaint on a member formally known as vogel, now agapornis and think i am trusted enough to be listened to and believed.

at the very first day of my unban i was playing at twc nd and a guy suspected to be from the uk was using cheats. someone recorded demo and posted. only for that demo to be reviewed by the member who cheated, vogel. in the demo you can see me telling an admin that i think it is him but obviously no proof = no ban.

every few days someone comes who has the same laggy unhit ping as vogel, the same playing style, and the exact same way of jumping.

here are the demos that have been collected:
https://www.upload.ee/files/5975570/satan.dm_84.html
https://www.upload.ee/files/5975574/weirdguy.dm_84.html
https://www.upload.ee/files/5975501/dolly.dm_84.html (as u can see in chat i am not the only one who agrees) opte neverstop and a guest seem to believe it too)

and finally: the real vogel using twc tags
https://www.upload.ee/files/5975580/vogel.dm_84.html


i would like to see members opinions as it is impossible to get solid proof with him constantly changing ip and mac. but 1 thing is for certain vogel has a unique style of playing and all those cheats share the exact same thing.

also blume (metla) has shown me a screenshot of him banned by anticheat i think a year ago, if i find it again i will update and post. http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/124305Vogel.jpg

ps. today vogel was at twc scrim using a regulars name: bened,and playing with wh.... im sure people who were there also can confirm

1 final thing that opte can confirm as im not sure who else was online at the time. twc vogel connected to twc nd and was banned under the name DoSeR , he reconnected and wasnt but sadly i dont have a screenshot. but if a member says its true i hope u will believe.

ps.ps. those demos arent the best, they prove hes using other names but not cheats for sure. as i dont have access to the ban proof thread i have to search through other members so better ones will come soon
!!!! https://www.upload.ee/files/5975722/howhigh.dm_84.html

[kurd'ich]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyu9dbe4bxf8w6...dm_84?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9us6s6fpv2g0m1...dm_84?dl=0
https://www.upload.ee/files/5975501/dolly.dm_84.html (as u can see in chat i am not the only one who agrees) opte neverstop and a guest seem to believe it too)

I cant download that i need to sign up .

And what mod is that? jaymod or etpro?

[Sarah]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyu9dbe4bxf8w6...dm_84?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9us6s6fpv2g0m1...dm_84?dl=0
https://www.upload.ee/files/5975501/dolly.dm_84.html (as u can see in chat i am not the only one who agrees) opte neverstop and a guest seem to believe it too)

I cant download that i need to sign up .

And what mod is that? jaymod or etpro?

jaymod and sec i will get them to upload again :p //edited

[$ubzero]

well, I've suspected a player of hacking a while ago (forgot name) that appeared to be Vogel.
So all allogations fell immediatly, and that is what disturbed me.
I admit Vogel is a good player, and more skilled then me.
But when I call other admins to check a guy out it is usually because I really think he hacks.
So I kept my eyes out whenever Vogel played, but I must say never found anything.

Vogel always seemed like a good admin to me and I never had a problem with him.
And it is true he has a very unique playstyle

[Sarah]

well, I've suspected a player of hacking a while ago (forgot name) that appeared to be Vogel.
So all allogations fell immediatly, and that is what disturbed me.
I admit Vogel is a good player, and more skilled then me.
But when I call other admins to check a guy out it is usually because I really think he hacks.
So I kept my eyes out whenever Vogel played, but I must say never found anything.

Vogel always seemed like a good admin to me and I never had a problem with him.
And it is true he has a very unique playstyle

vogel is a good player yes but a good admin no, and if he was using his real twc name i doubt he would cheat or he would atleast use it less obvious. but if we find out that the cheaters were him then he should be banned and kicked from twc anyway right? even if it wasnt his twc name.

Opte : when banger kept muting kornie on server and vogel kept unmuting

on scrim he ALWAYS abused ref, muting,kicking for being bad etc but thats irrelevant as it was on another server i guess

[The Master]

1 final thing that opte can confirm as im not sure who else was online at the time. twc vogel connected to twc nd and was banned under the name DoSeR , he reconnected and wasnt but sadly i dont have a screenshot. but if a member says its true i hope u will believe.

that can be checked in the serverlogs i gues so if you can give a time and date it would be easyer to look for it.

on scrim he ALWAYS abused ref, muting,kicking for being bad etc but thats irrelevant as it was on another server i guess

thats old news no 1 has ref now so no 1 can abuse it.

[Vogel]

thats old news no 1 has ref now so no 1 can abuse it.

And it died when these trollers could just get away with everything ;)
She even admits she should have been banned in that other topic.
Not sure what you trying to archive with this topic.

[Sarah]

thats old news no 1 has ref now so no 1 can abuse it.

And it died when these trollers could just get away with everything

Not sure what you trying to archive with this topic.

guests and members alike have also agreed with me. so once i find the demo from the day i was unbanned, venice, name Howhighcanyoube, u have some explaining to do. it is obviously u using other names. especially obvious since you have been more "inactive" now as TWC agapornis or vogel.

just because you can change ip and mac doesnt mean we dont have our own brains and eyes.

https://www.upload.ee/files/5975722/howhigh.dm_84.html
:-)

[The Master]

etpro died imo 50% cause off sarahs bad attitute, but this has nothing to do with it and this is not what the complain is about.

[Bread]

etpro died imo 50% cause off sarahs bad attitute, but this has nothing to do with it and this is not what the complain is about.

don't be ridiculous lol

etpro died because et is dying as it has been for over 4 years now

however i have no place in this topic so i'll just leave :^)

OT: Sarah makes a good point