hassaN vol. 2 (archived by The Master)

[Haures]

I agree with djuki ! Yourdog all people dont change,only some of them change, not all.[/b]

how u can know that? how u can know if i have changed or not?

i just dont get it ;o

looks like your logic is really weird but thats fine for me, thanks for your opinion

well yes thats true too but still i keep my own opinion that exhackers should be treated with care..

[hassaN]

Easy Megan, i respect it :P just wanted to know, sorry for no reply but im to lazy for click this button >.<

[Mimus]

The reason people might have some doubts about your "change" is actually made of several arguments.

First of all, people usually need quite some time before they can change. From my experience, change does not happen within a few days, especially not extreme changes from "everyone is shit" to "hey i love you all" (example sentences, since you did not seem to understand my metaphors last time).
Though it ofc might have been that you changed like that in just a week.

Next thing is, for most people there is a difference between people who cheat and people who lie. Like, someone uses wh on our server, gets banned and admits it on forum to say sorry and to get unbanned - fine. However, someone coming to the forums accusing us of being unable to make correct decisions about cheatesr and telling us he did not cheat at all, only to then find out he did indeed cheat is something not as easy to forgive for most people. So thats where a lot of doubts about your sincerity come from. Do not expect them, or us actually, so forget this issue that easily.

Lastly, not only cheating and lying about it is a thing people remember, but also you just a few days ago (23.02) saying sorry and telling us you thought about it all and STILL saying you did not cheat, admitting it only when people still did not fall for it, and even after that whole topic and your following post about wanting to be honest and nice you act pretty rude in later topics and posts.

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Look, I do actually believe that you think you changed. But I do not believe you did. Not meaning it in a bad way, I really do think that you feel like you changed and that you want to be nice and polite and all that. But what I see in all your posts is that you tend to not only react very irasible (aka quick-tempered, choleric), but that you also, as i said in previous posts, seem to only accept and respect things that take the same line as your own. Meaning, if people say "hey i do not want you in clan" you say "your opinion doesnt matter you dont know me thats only your opinion", but when someone speaks in favor of you, you are even though they aswell dont know you as good all like "every opinion matters thank you very much >name<".

You get what I mean? I fear that once you join TWC there are going to be a lot of problems involving you, not because you used to be a cheater and lied to us, but because your actions and reactions are absolutely unpredictable and you are easily angered and you tend to explode like a barrel of tnt if people speak against you.

[hassaN]

But seriously, im not gettin mad or angry when someone says something bad on me, its his opinion.I dont really care about it to much, since its only a game.I am respect all of you same,doesnt matter if u like me or u dont.When someone thinks im bad or something im not going to "rage" like u said before but im starting discuss, why he thinks like that - thats all u don't have to be afraid Mimus,everything is cool

[Charmy*]

I have to agree with mimus and Djuki on this. Although i have not been playing with you on BG like some others, i do see your sometimes irrational posts on this forum. I do see and believe you are trying your best to show people that you are diffrent from what you are. I tend to believe you might be changing. The only change i was hoping to see is actually caring about people opinion, and trying to understand why someone thinks that of you.

Maybe i care to much about people opinion in this clan, but they are my family. And i respect every opinion, even if i dont agree. I also go one step further and appreciate the fact people are willing to give their opinion, good or bad. Critics can actually be your best friend when it comes to you wanting to change. They have a critical view and you can ask yourself what can i learn from this?

For now i dont think its the right time for you to join BG. I know you put a lot of effort into it, and i think this is awsome! As said above i was hoping to see another change in you aswell. You cant simply deny the bad opinions, try to understand them is my tip

[hassaN]

Emm..Please give me a chance.I wont let you down hi promise

[Hruby]

Bg high admins are the ones to make this decision

I know vege
im just giving my opinion

[The Master]

well every1 is free to give there opinion, and in my opinion especialy no download members and demo team, because they handeled the case when it didnt go that well.

i played more time,s with him already, and i also have had a nice conversation with him.
i do belive he puts alot off offerts in this, he really likes playing with us, that is why i think he really is changing.
i do think he still has alot to learn about handeling with opinion (good or bad).
it is going alot better already then before imo.
also i hope he is gone start to like to play as a team, and giving actually beginners a chance to repair a tank or hit him a bullit before they got killed xD
else they all rq, and that is not really our intention.
i dont think he is ready yet to join bg, but i do think he can accomplish it in time.
but you are always welcome to join us at the server and play with us.
we can also have fun together while you are not in twc yet.
and this way you can prove yourself, but it will take some time.
i hope you understand this with your history here.
only time for you to prove you really chanced can clear your name.
this way when you join after some time, you can more easely make friends, and more poeple probeble wane meet you.

hope to see you in the server again hassan and thanks for your application!

[hassaN]

Emm sure.. I understand thanks for all your opinions

[$ubzero]

I agree to net (yet) let him in TWC now.
Most of the time I am the kinda guy that says : "hey cheaters deserve a second chance a chance to prove they aren't cheaters".
But you used 3 chances already... imo that only proves you aren't willing to change and don't really give a damn about rules etc.
I'm sorry if you really have changed this time, but I would say no.

Prove to me that I am wrong by playing nice and without cheats for let's say a year or half a year and apply again then.
More people will have seen your good intentsions and be willing to accept you.