Beginners discussion thread (archived by Mimus)

[Manzz]

I've created this thread so, we (high admins), could discuss about important topics related to our server. Simply post here any points that you would like to discuss and share your opinion about others.

I'm going to start this one off with few points:

1. Server activity/popularity
   
2. Server settings
   
3. Rules of TWC/How to handle with rulebreakers
   

1. Server activity/popularity

With hard work we finally managed to reach top 100 in gametracker with activity. Now my question is, Do we want to keep going for even more activity? If we do want to create even more active environment we should think of how are we going to do that. I have 3 suggestions on that one:

1) We should figure out when most of beginners members and high admins can play and start organizing meetings in our server. Once or twice a week we should all play in Beginners for an hour or two. Simply because server filled with players attracts guests, and that would be a good chance to recruit some new active members.

2) We could organize some events from time to time. This can be anything, we could organize tournaments, fun meetings or something similar. We could ask MST's to raise the server slots during events and this could be nice opportunity to gather players from every TWC server to take part of those events. We could also involve guests. Again, we might gain some new frequent players to our server. What do you guys think about this? It could be fun, throw in any ideas you have for some events.

3) We could keep going like we are now. Our server is already doing pretty well, so eventually we would reach high activity without doing anything specific for that. But this method is also slower and the last two would be way more fun as we could spend some time together and do something different.


2. Server settings

This one goes with the last one actually. If we get more activity changing server settings drastically will be very critical. So IF we wanted to make any changes we should make them now and slowly, one by one. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with the current settings, i wouldn't even change them but is there anyone who has thought about that? What do you think? I don't think that changing something rather small will affect us much. We shouldn't be afraid of changing something that doesn't drastically affect the gameplay.


3. Rules of TWC/How to handle with rulebreakers

This point pretty much repeats the post that imma made here. We have always been a nice little community and we have been very tolerant about minor rule breakings. That is good, i've always thought that solving problems with words should come before using admin powers, but here is the problem. We have became too tolerant. This can be damaging in long term. We can't just punish some people and not do it with others. So next time you see a rule breaker don't hesitate to warn him and if it is needed use proper punishment. But keep in mind, that you should always try to solve everything calmly by words at first. There might just be a misunderstanding so there is no need to yell at someone or use your commands at the first sight. Do you guys think that this is reasonable?




Anyways, this is it for now. Feel free to give your opinion about those points. If you have anything to add, do that.

P.S please keep in mind that changes are not made without agreement from our supremes.

[Sky]

nice and interresting topic about the future of beginners indeed, great job manzu

so about your points,

1. Server activity/popularity

1) i'm not really 100% in for the idea of deciding of a time to play all together,
mainly because the server is doing fine the way we do it now, once we decide to go play with 3-4 guys together it gets filled easily
and also because, it's annoying for those who can't come at that specific time, and discover an empty server at the hours where there should be fairly 4-5 people playing (because those people would already have played during the decided time and got bored or any other reason).

2) but, i love your second idea, about organising some kind of event, to gather a max of guests or members from other servers.
i remember few months ago we had something like the "vietnam week", and afaik it was pretty succesful cause vietnam won lots of guests due to it.
we could maybe do this in beginners also? maybe not a whole week but like, bg weekend, what do you think about it? just one suggestion tho, it can be anything.
we could like make mini-teams of players from bg (and eventually some guests) and have fun mini-scrims on bg, that could be nice too

3) i must say i like the 3rd idea also, but from what i see that's happening now, some other servers are going to be way less active than before, and more and more people are joining/transferring to bg, so i think it's the moment to go in action, show all our cards and gather as much activity as possible, to keep it the longest we can. so later we can chill, and let the activity grow slowly by itself, you know we must strike the iron while it's hot

2. Server settings

about the server settings, tbh i got no clue what we could change, everything is fine like it is now for me, but maybe others will have some interresting propositions.

3. Rules of TWC/How to handle with rulebreakers

i totally agreed with what you wrote, tho i notice the last days it's getting a bit better, since imma made her post, there have been lot's of people trolling, but all were dealt with easily
tho some people give too much attention to trolls, and that's sometimes annoying, mostly it's concerning lower members or guests, but still, we should teach them how to handle trolls
for trollers theres a basic rule i would say:
if you notice a troller, as long as he doesn't break rules, don't give him attention, just ignore him, cause else it's always a mess of argues in mainchat and it's annoying everybody
and if he breaks rules well, same like anybody else, like you said in your post


that's all i have to say sofar i guess, well i'll post again if i forgot something

[imma]

1. Server activity/popularity

Yeah I think we should organize some events every now and then to keep it active. It would be fun to do it.
Other, as a member of beginners, each one of you should find at least hour per day to play there, that way someone will always be on server.


2. Server settings

Personally, I think settings should not change, because people like it this way and not any other way.


3. Rules of TWC

As I said in my thread ( http://board.twcclan.org/thread-2891.html ) we have more rule breakers nowadays than usual, so we aren't yet used to it, and way to punish them. My opinion is in that thread so makes no sense to post again.