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Server activity improvement (archived by NightFall) - Poseidon - 18-08-2015
Hello once again
as I mentioned in Cross' thread about the server activity in general, I would like to focus on a detailed brainstorming what can be done to improve the activity on our servers. But before that I want to say thank you to the MST's, the ex-members and our whole community for keeping this clan and the servers alive for the past years! After all, ET is dying and in most cases there are more people leaving than joining the game, or even a clan. This will be a long post because I will first tell about possible improvements in general and then try to summarize problems or popular opinions why some of our servers are far less active than similar servers from other clans. It is important to say that some things can/should be done directly while others will take time to accomplish. So let us begin:
1. Advertisement - [Don't confuse it with what you probably think I mean! Just let me explain.]
Let me introduce this point with an anecdote. Today in the afternoon I was playing on our Nam server with three or four other players (not members). I told them that from 8 to 10 pm there will be our PsA meeting on this server. Then somebody asked me what PsA is and when I told him the written-out meaning, he still was not sure if it is something for everybody or for members only... So it would be better to include a pop up message with the definition and the date/time of our next meeting together with an invitation for everybody else to join it on all involved servers. Additionally, the information about the next meetings on our forum should be foregrounded. Another possibility for advertisement could be to play on other servers every now and then (what some people surely do), of course with the TWC tags on. If you chat with other players a bit, they might be willing to visit our servers too (during a time of good activity they would certainly come back again).
2. New !commands as achievements
This is pretty simple: we could invent and add some new funny commands for players reaching a certain amount of XP. I know that this idea is not going to attract many players but it would definitely make a nice addition to have something as an achievement list (as we have on the forum) especially for non-members. (For this point I would love to see some suggestions, you certainly have nice ideas.)
3. Special events
Although I have seen some nice ideas there could still be at least one monthly event on a day where most members can participate (To find a day, a poll would be useful. For example we take every second sunday of the month). Then we pick a server where we use only one weapon as in the molotov event. Or another idea: We use the headshot-only mod and lower the gravity so we have to try to kill the opponent by shooting in mid-air. To make this even more efficient, we combine all the points here and advertise for the event, then we give the best player an award like "name of the event + winner" (or something funnier) in our forum. Same goes for Scrim Team fights. I would be proud to organize something like that.
And now let us move on and analyze our less active servers:
I will focus on servers, where there were few to no players except for the PsA meetings in the last 30 days (according to Gametracker data).
1. Sniperwar
Some years ago, I enjoyed playing sniper. I don't remember the name of the server but I think that it is still existing. Back then me and some friends were looking for empty servers to play and we hated seeing bots everywhere. Even when I was alone I rather waited for somebody on an empty server to play with than killing bots. So a popular opinion is to kick the bots at least by voting. Another annoying thing is the leaning behind boxes. Beside the fact that it is unrealistic not being able to get shot while leaning, it makes everybody annoyed and impatient, who is not doing this. I don't see any good point in keeping this feature on the server. Two years ago we have not seen something like that on where we were playing and when I asked my friends (they stopped playing ET) if they do remember the leaning, they said that they don't even know what I was talking about (and two of them were real freaks with an extreme reaction). So I am sure that seeing through boxes is somehow possible to deactivate and this would make Sniperwar a challenge to spot, hide and react again. Feel free to to add anything to improve our Sniper server!
2. Vietnam
In my opinion we have good members who are often playing on Nam. It is obvious that it is getting more active again. Suggestions to improve this server are being made.
3. HeadShot
We also have active HS members. Still it is getting less active recently. But except for activating the HS-only mod I don't know what else we can make to improve it. Without the HS-only mod the server is pretty similar to a normal server and that is the only difference I saw while comparing it to two other HS servers.
So far this is everything I want to say. To improve the activity we need to test different things, what do you think? Please tell us your opinion
Thank you for reading this!
RE: Server activity improvement - Duka - 18-08-2015
1. All you just wrote is a topic which is rolling and rolling for many years. We did it many times, especially on ND, even I put some binds. There were no good results. The guy came to server, saw there was nobody and he came back to ND.
2. Why people hate No Quarter mode? Because it is full off annoying sounds and because of that, No Quarter servers are big mess. Adding sounds to ND is the worst idea ever. Even without them ND is one big chaos with panzer, poison gas.
1. To the Cross' thread, but I think it also suits here - ET has got mods and mini mods. Mods are Jaymod, No Quarter etc. Mini mods are double jump, mario mode and so on. And you have to agree ET is about advancing forward and pushing the enemy back. <-- This makes ET very dynamic game. And minimods and other things like communicating on our beloved teamspeak are making this game even more dynamic and quick. But sniperwar is killing all of this. Sniperwar is slow game, when you have to look for few seconds to find enemy.
tl;dr people hate sniper, becouse they don't want to crouch in the same place, with the same weapon.
2. I am happy you are happy, but maybe you don't know, that in the same time when was the PsA meeting CCO had a training. And now try to delete all members with CCO. (I know it is a bad example, because some of NAM players actually participate in PsA meeting, but it is not a huge number unfortunately)
And what? Empty server, that's what. You all are now saying, that NAM improved activity, but that's because of coincidence.
I was inactive, I didn't have an internet connection, so I couldn't participate in PsA meeting in previous week. Please, inform me in next post, how was previous monday.
RE: Server activity improvement - Coffee - 18-08-2015
(18-08-2015, 11:34 AM)Dukajek Wrote: And what? Empty server, that's what. You all are now saying, that NAM improved activity, but that's because of coincidence.
I don't think it rly matters it was a coincidence, you guys grouped together and were playing. Means there is activity. Right?
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(18-08-2015, 01:25 AM)Poseidon Wrote: Another possibility for advertisement could be to play on other servers every now and then (what some people surely do), of course with the TWC tags on. If you chat with other players a bit, they might be willing to visit our servers too (during a time of good activity they would certainly come back again).
Abt this part. think you're right. We could only play in TWC servers which is ofcouuurse the right think to do. But I really think it's of no harm to visit another server for like 15/30 mins at times. People might get curious when they see a clan name that's not known to them, especially when there is more than just one person at a time or different people visiting. Even without approaching them abt TWC (which is usually forbidden since it's advertising) you might have made them curious. Imo it's always fun to see diff servers and other people so that might also be the case for players in the other server. Maybe they will give us a try.
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Btw, im in for a special event
hihi.
RE: Server activity improvement - Duka - 18-08-2015
It does matter, because some of you may think NAM members improved activity and NAM don't need this big help PsA gave us in the previous time - this is the same situation like in the beggining of the holidays - we still need the same help.
RE: Server activity improvement - $ubzero - 18-08-2015
I agree on most points posted here, I will respond to the most relevant post for me abut the headshot server.
I'll post later about other points ( need bit more time to think about those
)Hani is doing a great job trying to get everything in HS ready for more people.
We're kind of preparing and organising so we have a good structural server for people to play on.
Now it's bit of a mess cuz every day there are things changing and improving but in time it will be finished.
Hani & Narko also started a great Fireteam for headshot (CBP). Everyone can join.
So feel free to look into that, it's under headshot forum. (small advertising
)This will hopefully improve some activity for players/members to come to hs and train etc.
We also started a post in Headshot I think about all kinds of special events we could do and Hani is bussy with sorting all of that out. Feel free to also take a look at it and give some comments or add some fun special events you can think of for HS.
And us being a bit lower activity again on PSA's recently is because most of us HS members were on vacation. But we're back! and we will soon be active again on our most beloved server
P.S. Noticed through this post that HANI is doing a lot actually, maybe time to say this: THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK HANI! and also Dominator for helping us out on some coding stuff.
RE: Server activity improvement - Poseidon - 18-08-2015
Hey Duka,
you seem to misunderstand a point: the PsA will still help the Nam server, maybe even more with a second meeting in a week. I only mentioned that there is running a process where people start to like the mod because of the active community. I didn't want to involve names but since Killerspace applied, the server is gaining more and more popularity. I often see him playing alone during the afternoon and that's why I like to join. Shortly after that, there are playing four or five people on Nam and suddenly other members (Dominator) join and we have around eight people at 3 pm, as some days ago.
I would really like to help the servers, so I made this long post but with the goal to improve the activity in general. And lately, other servers are way less active than our Nam server.
This takes us right to the sniper server. Of course you are right when you say that people hate it, there are many different reasons. But what is the point of running this server when we don't even try to change anything and why are there other sniper servers on ET with way more active people? With some efficient changes we are certainly able to improve the activity, not only with the PsA.
Long story short: it's about making improvements, that will gain the activity from now on and after the holiday season will end this should be even easier to fulfill.
RE: Server activity improvement - Coffee - 18-08-2015
(18-08-2015, 01:05 PM)$ubzero Wrote: P.S. Noticed through this post that HANI is doing a lot actually, maybe time to say this: THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK HANI! and also Dominator for helping us out on some coding stuff.
This
I'm glad to see it changing and i'm looking forward to the meetings!
(18-08-2015, 12:35 PM)Dukajek Wrote: It does matter, because some of you may think NAM members improved activity and NAM don't need this big help PsA gave us in the previous time - this is the same situation like in the beggining of the holidays - we still need the same help.
I didn't mean to say that you guys don't need help. You've just made progress and I was more like pointing out on how good that is, and im happy for that
RE: Server activity improvement - The Master - 18-08-2015
well in my opinion we are with to less poeple to help all servers at the same time, (i aint talking about psa)
and also i think we have to help sniper at last, not because i dont like it, but in my opinion its gone cost alot off lost time wish we can use to make other servers active with a higher chanch to succes, what i think is the best way to probeble do it would be to play every day from 6/8 with every guys online from this clan on one server for 1 or 2 weaks, that will gain alot geusts and after 1 or 2 weaks there will be like 8/10 geusts and they can play together forever without us needed but ofc that means every1 need to be willing to do that and that is gone be hard:P+we need an admin left on nd probeble:P
and we need a structual time so geust will know when to come back.
also i think there are alot poeple suggesting meetings (including me) but we can do it ourselfs we dont have to wait for a supreme to have time, they are buzzy with technical stuff already.
RE: Server activity improvement - $ubzero - 18-08-2015
(18-08-2015, 04:09 PM)The Master Wrote: also i think there are alot poeple suggesting meetings (including me) but we can do it ourselfs we dont have to wait for a supreme to have time, they are buzzy with technical stuff already.
True, we have like standard HS meetings already (obligated for HS members)
Where we try to make hs active on at least 2 days of the week and make hs members active too. Friday and saturday we have HS meeting from 19:00-21:00 GMT+1 if I'm not mistaken.
This could be made for other servers liks Nam and BG too for other days in the week and try to advertise it on site so members from all servers can join.
I know this could be confusing with normal PSA meetings so don't know how to solve that problem (yet)
RE: Server activity improvement - Poseidon - 18-08-2015
At first it should be made sure that we are focusing on members and guests together. If we try to help all servers at the same time, we will split up and this is not the goal of our community. The best way to help each other is to unite our forces. On one hand it is good that each server has members who organize their own activity project for their server in the first place. But on the other hand we don't even have so many active members per server (except for ND). To tackle this problem we have to be informed about the other activity projects without searching for them in particular. Most members don't check the whole forum (in this case HS section) to find out when which team has their meeting so there might be other players who possibly have time to join you, but just don't mention you assembling there. And except for scrim team trainings I can't imagine any reasons why you would love to play with four or five people only..
This is not an advertisement for PsA but more for everybody of us who loves to play ET. There are more ways to help each other and to unite our ideas, you just have to participate and suggest new ones.