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DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! (archived by iTim) - Cryptic - 15-12-2013
Ok guys, i got the pleasure to meet in server Dp Madmack , kinda like heeee , wth ....
We talk for a while, and here we got the inactivity problem in twc, well MadMack come with a brilliant idea in my eyes, before say something just read the whole topic.
For some of you who dont know who is dP Madmack or DP clan , some facts , Dp clan is for a long time a pro sniper clan, most of the best sniper dudes come from there, and in the golden days in et, the most active and funy sniper server . I even play there for 2 long years meeting many cool guys .
Now the idea...
A public server owned by TWC and Dp together, 2 clans together in one server, sniper dudes from both sides playing together, and now before even to open my mouth about rules etc... Welcome dp Madmack!
Lets see what kind of feedback we got about this.
2 CLANS+1 SERVER= MORE TRAFIC.. vISITORS.
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - MadMack - 15-12-2013
Hi there fellas,
Long time no see.
Anyway, I was sitting on TWC|Sniper today and had a talk with Lucid.
Overall, we came to conclusion that the state of a sniper arena in ET is in pretty poor shape. Most of the servers are empty, and the ones that have traffic - don't have good maps, or have some weird settings.
Saying that - I haven't seen a lot of traffic on TWC|Sniper in a while. Same goes for dP:Server - both are pretty much empty. I do believe that the main goal of server administration in ET right now is getting people to play on your server. Get that done, and then You can focus on adding to the server - why trying to jazz up empty server, right?
Now, what is primary motivator for people to join a sniper server right now?
I would say traffic - if people see a dead server, they will not join. If they see people actually being there - talking, and having good time - they may come in, check it out, and maybe become regulars. How to get those people there in the 1st place? Well, TWC|members whos home server is sniper need to be more active on it. Problem is, I haven't seen a lot of active TWC snipers lately. Same comes for dP. So here I remember good old 545'n'kG server - where two clans shared a server, and both clan members played on it. Having 2 clans on same server would increase number of people that have sniper as their home server. That would maybe increase member activity, and in result - bring some guests.
The point is, we all want a good sniper server with steady traffic.
Of course, we would have to figure out the agreement between the clan, if we share a server. And generally, both clan members should get a long etc.
Anyway, we were just talking about it with Lucid. Nothing proposed yet, just an idea. Feedback welcome.
Greetings,
MadMack
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - $4m4el - 15-12-2013
if supreme will be from TWC i think it will be good idea. It is worth trying.
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - Chickenchaser - 15-12-2013
It will probably have 1 supreme from TWC and one from dP. But not getting into details as to how this would work, I like the overall idea.
And the few dP members I've met over the years, all been nice people, so.
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - Cryptic - 15-12-2013
I dont have details, i guess dp deal with dp members and twc deal with twc members and we share the task to deal with the server, the basic idea is to share 1 server for both clans, will be nice to ear opinions from all you, madmack have more details and if this is going to take a step forward we can work together to build a supersniper server....
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - Storch - 15-12-2013
How ironic, here people/clans want to work together to achieve something while at the same time some other people think it makes more sense to divide themselves out of a group and try it on their own
Anyway, I really like the idea. I think it's definitely worth a try, it can't get much worse anyway. Of course many things have to be cleared firstly, but since we all long for the same target, that is an active sniper server, it shouldn't be very difficult to get along with each other. I always enjoyed playing sniper every once a while, even if I don't like nitmod that much. I would surely try to visit you guys sometimes. After all I think the best people in ET play in Sniper servers, at least those I happen to know. So we shouldn't let it die so easily
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - Ligustah - 15-12-2013
I'm all up for this, I do indeed think the idea is brilliant.
DP has always been a major force within the Sniper community in my opinion.
As mentioned in another post, I will very soon start migrating servers to our new machine. Along with that - I'm sure about that - we can probably work out some prototype of what this cooperation may look like in future.
-- Ligustah
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - MadMack - 15-12-2013
Like I said, there would have to be an agreement between clans, if a server like that would exist. Basically, a set of rules of what each clan can and can't do.
Of course, first and foremost - we pay for server in half. So it would be fair from that side.
Second, administration - one supreme from TWC, one from dP. Maybe few server moderators from each clan. Now, if any trouble with members come up - dP deals with dP members, TWC deals with TWC members. Lets say a dP member would break the rules ( lets say crossing ) - TWC|admin can !splat him or something - but he can't !ban - all he has to do is report the misbehavior to dP - and we deal with the guy. Vice versa - if TWC member would break rules, dP could take small time actions, but overall decision lies with TWC.
Server rules and settings + maps etc. could be discussed. I like the way the TWC server is set up right now, so I don't think that would have to be changed - maybe eliminate the lag spikes...
Other things would have to be discussed. For example: if dP wants to have a scrim - but at the same time TWC members /or/ guests want to play normally - what then? ( We could reserve a time and day beforehand ) - Like I said, we would have to work together and figure things out.
Any other concerns? I can't think of any right now.
Greetings,
MadMack
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - Cryptic - 15-12-2013
Yes the lag , is a pain in the ass,about the mod, jaymod or nitmod, i really dont care in this case if we share the server, maps is another matter, many maps are just weird and not really sniper maps, AE is for the record the Sniper map , oldschool, boat map etc... no tweaking is in my eyes a rule, binoc sick and leaning allowed, about language no idea but freedom of spech without offending is ok to me...2.5 2.6 2.6b ? no idea to , but visible for all,, also TWC SNIPER MAP is a bonus to, and thx Ligustah for your YESSSSSS.... waiting for what dP Clan have to say ..
RE: DP Clan and TWC Together. Sniper is back!!! - Ligustah - 15-12-2013
(15-12-2013, 06:30 PM)MadMack Wrote: Like I said, there would have to be an agreement between clans, if a server like that would exist. Basically, a set of rules of what each clan can and can't do.Money is really no concern for me. Unless there's a good reason not to do so, I would suggest hosting it on our new machine along with all the other TWC servers, so there really is no additional cost involved with hosting the server. Along with that, it's also not trivial to estimate the actual cost of a single ET server for us. Of course, any sort of financial contribution is highly appreciated. I just would not like to make it a condition
Of course, first and foremost - we pay for server in half. So it would be fair from that side.
(15-12-2013, 06:30 PM)MadMack Wrote: Second, administration - one supreme from TWC, one from dP. Maybe few server moderators from each clan. Now, if any trouble with members come up - dP deals with dP members, TWC deals with TWC members. Lets say a dP member would break the rules ( lets say crossing ) - TWC|admin can !splat him or something - but he can't !ban - all he has to do is report the misbehavior to dP - and we deal with the guy. Vice versa - if TWC member would break rules, dP could take small time actions, but overall decision lies with TWC.All of this sounds very reasonable.
(15-12-2013, 06:30 PM)MadMack Wrote: Server rules and settings + maps etc. could be discussed. I like the way the TWC server is set up right now, so I don't think that would have to be changed - maybe eliminate the lag spikes...As you may have read from other posts, we were planning to convert the server to Nitmod. This, of course, is also debatable. The new machine is about 5-8 times the power of the old machine that served us well for about two years before we moved to the current lag stricken host. Also it's hosted at a company that's specialized on game server hosting and at least claim to have the fastest network equipment on the market.
(15-12-2013, 06:30 PM)MadMack Wrote: Other things would have to be discussed. For example: if dP wants to have a scrim - but at the same time TWC members /or/ guests want to play normally - what then? ( We could reserve a time and day beforehand ) - Like I said, we would have to work together and figure things out.Having a separate scrim server is absolutely not a problem either. We can just clone the server and start it up on another address whenever it's required.
(15-12-2013, 06:30 PM)MadMack Wrote: Any other concerns? I can't think of any right now.
Greetings,
MadMack
At least to me it looks very promising. Maybe we can have a group chat sometime to work out some sort of "contract" so both sides have some guidelines to refer to and point members to.
-- Ligustah