Auf wiedersehen (archived by Chris)

[jEnzi]

Good bye and good luck in real life Joris , not going to say my personal opinion of you, let's just say that thank you for mostly being mature, reasonable and trying to help TWC Community.
Your good work for this clan is alot bigger than the small mistakes you've made, some people don't seem to understand that.

Visit us once in a while, you're welcome to HS

[Kjell]

It's actually weak of you to complain on him. Where's the mutual respect here?
Is this your way of reuniting everyone?

I think we have lost too many valuable members to let this go any further. Teammate, I know you don't really like Joris and his way of behaviour but please, this is the virtual, don't go and hate on each other. It's looks like your life depends on it.

Joris did alot for TWC, let us not forget that, the work he did is way more than the little mistakes he made. So show some respect before you can earn some respect.

Anyway, Joris, thanks for clearing the 'inactivity' up. Thanks for everything you did for TWC. Goodluck in your life and maybe you can come and visit us. Take care and see you !

And I hope for the rest of us who will continue to reply.
Show some respect, or I'll remove your replies aswell.

Even though you didn't the person, you don't have to make this a rage topic. If you want to tell him something, send a PM or something else but not here. If you like to go on raging on me aswel, go ahead but will it make you feel better?

Stop this useless rage replies.. Show some maturity, please.

[Bouhbouh]

bye Joris ! Have fun and Good luck in your real life ! thx for ur work here !

[Bread]

I have to agree with Clysma here.

I thought we wanted to ''reunite''? From what I'm seeing here, that is obviously not happening.

Keep insults out of this thread, or it will be closed shortly

GL irl, Joris.

[Chuck]

why everyone having trouble with kokok and insane, almost never had trouble with these guys, they listen to me somehow

anyway did knew this for long time that you would leave since you never are ingame and if you do you rq every 3 min.

GL and have fun what you doing now

[Alduin]

Good job guys.

Keep up the good work making TWC better place.

Really? Really Clysma? Get your poo together.

on Yourdogs RQ:

*Posts trololol video*
E: Good bye, wont miss you.
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The leaving post was so long, dont waste your time on reading it.

You mean Yesman? his leaving post was a trolling post, if you havent noticed.
And I was being sarcastic on my replies.

And is this really the way to "make TWC a better place" in your opinion? As teammate mention in his reunite thread, everyone should stop fighting.
Has it succeed?

1. Yeah sorry Yesman's. :P

2. No it's not the way to make TWC better.
And ofcourse nobody stops fighting. They won't stop by a reading a thread.
Like humanity destroys it's own world while knowing they're doing it. Just too lazy to take action.

Ofcourse I'm a little wrong too (Anyway I showed some respect atleast)
But I don't know what can convince us to behave better.
We all have people we don't like. Now there aren't admins like 3 years ago who would watch you constantly.

3. I have no idea it was a troll post..?
How could it meant to be a troll post?
If it was, and then I assume it was, I take back my worlds for %90.
I guess case solved. :P
Thanks for the information btw.

Regards.

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Apart from my other posts:
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What Chris says!
''Reunite''
Is this how y'all want to reunite? Forget it then.
Time to show respect. Why are we actually discussing this on Joris' leaving post?
I just gave my opinion to him (might come over rude) but ended it in a sort of nice way.
I'm reading: You should never join. You've done nothing to No Download. You were useless.
(How it comes over)
Come on man, we can't all ''like'' each other but be polite and show some respect for his duty. (And to any other member)
I hope my previous posts don't make you think I've lost my mind too, I just wanted to set things straight fast. :P

Regards

[ocean]

Argues, argues. people go away, people join / re-join. The discussion here shows Joris was someone important (for few people) and someone on important place (for another bunch of people). I agree Joris could chill sometimes without any doubts or be just kind for some people, but on other hand - I'm not surprised he was so stick to the rules. Supreme means responsibilities and maybe but not necessary the work gets on top of some1, after some time, especially when some1 tries to keep everything together since longer time. Just try to imagine that guys. Anyways I got arguments from both sides and to keep pushing the Teammate's idea to reunite ourselves we shouldn't turn this thread into kinda decapitation execution. Its way below any level

urs sincerely ocy

[Mimus]

Im being out for some hours, come back and see a huge thread with 5 pages?

Im wondering what it is about, see its a leaving post and are awaiting 5 pages of farewells tbh, as its usually the case.

Now I see a group of people making it a rage thread. Why?

As it was already said by some, its kinda ironic to make sophisticated threads about twc members needing to work together, respect each other and be "a respectful community", when at the other side writing stuff like posted in this rage topic.

Ive seen you being convinced of, no matter what you are doing, not breaking any rules.
That might be so, because we have things which are common sense, thats what you actually call it, stated in our rules. We thought our members, and even more long-time members who are mature and kinda trusted, would be smart enough to have at least a certain niveau of common sense.

Let me tell you the things I am thinking about when talking about common sense here:
- posting in a leaving thread, where nobody is attacked and just the reasons for leaving are explained, some of the most disrespectful things i have seen in years. Starting a "party" when somebody you dislike is leaving, isnt the nice way to say goodbye to someone. No matter what your personal feelings towards this person are, either tell him a nice goodbye or just stay the hell out of the thread. If you feel like partying, close your door and turn the music volume up.
- calling someone a "bad supreme", or even the one of the "worst" supremes. This might be your personal view, but then mark it as it. Joris actually did a lot for TWC, not only by being a supreme, and a good one, active at least before he lost the interest,but also by suggesting and helping to implement things like the recruitment system, which in a big server like ND really helps a lot. Moreover, when Chuck and Schaapje were inactive, he was the one accepting the few commands of a CO-supreme and still taking care of all the duties a fulltime-supreme has. And he was the only one at that time for our biggest server. Thats earns my respect.
- what leads my to my next point: being too serious. Why? Its not forbidden to be serious, especially not if there are things happenin which are, reminding you of common sense, not liked. Taking action when people refuse to act like common sense tells, is not a fault. Even though Joris might have his weaknesses, e.g. having an "unusal" way of expressing his opinion, a way some people feel attacked by, that does not mean you can disrespect him. If he acts this way because of his flaws, you acting like you do because you think you can, just because he also does it, makes you even worse, in my eyes.


To sum it up, if joris isnt interested in ET anymore, its his decision and we should, if we liked him and respect what he did for twc, wish him all the best.

Dragging his work trough the mire just because of personal attitudes is not a behaviour a twc members is supposed to show.

Lets put these lapses aside and continue acting mature.

@ Joris, thanks for you work. You were a good supreme, with flaws but even more with strengths

[Nokia]

Goodbye Joris and gl in rl

[Clysma]

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Yes, it really is not the way.

Go and read Yesman's leaving post to the end and you will see. :P